Man Shot and Killed While Watering Friend's Lawn

budlover13

King Tut
do you realize that this conversation has involved an ex member of some police force? sooo the topic of corrupt departments versus rogue individuals has been breached...

i have three cousins in miami who are cops. they are not evil, but they are dumb.

and gangs rat eachother out all the time how you think any off them get taken down ever??

wow you're defensive about this you sure do love you some bacon huh?

I defend the bacon I love.
 

Devildog93

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My friend....don't think so. I don't befriend pigs and pig cohorts.

There duty is to protect the public. They failed to research their target. They could have easily first realized she was there, second....knocked on her door first, got her and the kid out, then raided the upstairs.

FUCKING SIMPLE.

She lived in a seperate suite, with a seperate addresss and all. They didn't even know that. How the FUCK is that my fault.

Fuck off.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
no one. you said he should share guilt were something to happen to his neighbors kid. i was implying that i disagree.
Of course he should... who the hell brought the cops there?! It sure wasn't the kid or his/her mother... it was Mr. Devildog, and I'm gonna guess that he wasn't raided for growing pot...

Socata u said cannabis kills kids. u said that, dont say u didnt u creep
Please quote my post where I said cannabis kills kids, because as my RIU shows, I said...


Even if it was only growing cannabis, if I was not legally protected by law while growing, I would never, ever put a child at risk by growing in an adjacent apartment or whatever... that is just stupid beyond belief.


That says nothing about cannabis killing kids, that says that I am smart enough and thoughtful enough not to put my neighbors at risk by bringing cops to my house for a raid.


She lived in a seperate suite, with a seperate addresss and all. They didn't even know that. How the FUCK is that my fault.

Fuck off.
She used your car every day as you said around their "watch" time... so they probably thought that she was either your ex... or that you were doing whatever you were doing to get busted, in 2 apartments.

And as for fucking off, I'll use your logic... I was here first.

Have a hug, and please... don't put kids at risk by being stupid and getting raided.

:hug:
 

valjean

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I defend the bacon I love.
yes yes sorry for the slur but dude was implying that asking for a complete overhaul of a corrupt department, which you recently informed as an insider that they do exist, is a stupid thing to ask for. i know we wont get rid of cops in general, but in a lot of counties in south florida, we need 100% new cops.
 

valjean

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yeah nobody brought them there they came of there own free will. why would he expect his neighbors to be involved as long as he isnt firing rpgs back at the cops?
 

a mongo frog

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Of course he should... who the hell brought the cops there?! It sure wasn't the kid or his/her mother... it was Mr. Devildog, and I'm gonna guess that he wasn't raided for growing pot...



Please quote my post where I said cannabis kills kids, because as my RIU shows, I said...



That says nothing about cannabis killing kids, that says that I am smart enough and thoughtful enough not to put my neighbors at risk by bringing cops to my house for a raid.
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the thaught that your having thaughts like that makes u a sure fire creepo. dont have to quote u. u need to simmer down or go smoke some cock or what ever u do in that plane. hope this helps.
 

budlover13

King Tut
yes yes sorry for the slur but dude was implying that asking for a complete overhaul of a corrupt department, which you recently informed as an insider that they do exist, is a stupid thing to ask for. i know we wont get rid of cops in general, but in a lot of counties in south florida, we need 100% new cops.

No offense taken at all. Just saying where I stand. I hear Florida is a Wild West!
 

SocataSmoker

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yeah nobody brought them there they came of there own free will. why would he expect his neighbors to be involved as long as he isnt firing rpgs back at the cops?
Comes raid an apartment on their own free will?

That's just ignorant valjean (you make labels?) and you know better... he brought those cops to his location by being stupid and thus, attracting heat.

Therefore, he of course shares some of the blame if anyone living next to him was to get hurt...
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
the thaught that your having thaughts like that makes u a sure fire creepo. dont have to quote u. u need to simmer down or go smoke some cock or what ever u do in that plane. hope this helps.
So the fact that I'm having thoughts about respecting my neighbors safety, and thus deciding to grow at another location other than next door to kids and such, makes me a "creepo"?

Wow... I don't want to touch whatever you've been smoking...
 

valjean

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im not sure what you mean by labels? but yeah i kinda doubt he wanted to get raided... i would feel very guilty, but i dont think that i should... if that makes sense.
 

Devildog93

Well-Known Member
Of course he should... who the hell brought the cops there?! It sure wasn't the kid or his/her mother... it was Mr. Devildog, and I'm gonna guess that he wasn't raided for growing pot...

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Get this thru your fucking head. I never swore an oath to protect the public. I never was trained in surveillance, weapon tactics or even fucking public relations.

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THE FUCKING RAID WAS FOR.

Their job is to ensure the do their job without harming the public. They completely overlooked the fact there is a kid there. Not like it was winter and they didn't see the kid because he was hiding inside.

This happened early summer/late spring. Her and her kid were always in the front yard, or in the driveway....or walking to the store, or taking my vehicle......because I was such a cunty coke dealer, that I thought I should help a single mom get her son to school. Fuck I was such a cunt, that I even thought......I know what'll piss her off....I'll give her cab money sometimes if I happen to need my car. Wow, she must have hated me.

She can't afford to move, and I was there first. Yet I am at fault.
 

......

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All I will say in this thread is this:
To all the haters......
I hope none of you will ever be a victim, or in a bad accident.
How many victims are because of your actions?
If your getting hasstled by the cops your doing somthing wrong most the time.
Wanna stay off their radar, quit being a fuck up.
The reason cops are out there is to protect us against fucks that steal our shit,
beat people up, and don't care about anyone but themselfs.
You want cops held accountable??? Hold your self accountable first!
I've spent time in county and state prisons you know why???
Cause I fucked up, I served my time and did my parole.
My only complant is the narrow minded people that want to keep it hanging over my head Grrrrrr.
Quit cryin about can't find work go join the service and learn some thing.
Peace
you obviously never had an encounter with Philadelphia's finest.
I been beat,robbed and extorted by these cops.My fucking grandma gets harassed by them and we still dont file any grievances against them because we know they will eventually get theres.

They love planting crack on people and putting felonies on someones record like its nothing,its horrible so hopefully there will be 10 more dead cops pictures on there half ass memorial by the end of summer.
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
im not sure what you mean by labels? but yeah i kinda doubt he wanted to get raided... i would feel very guilty, but i dont think that i should... if that makes sense.

No one WANTS to get busted... I'm just trying to illustrate the fact that he got so mad at police, when in actuality it was himself that he should be mad at because HE brought the police there...

He wants to totally blame the cops if anything had happened, and I'm saying he should understand that the blame would be shared between himself AND the cops... not that the cops are completely innocent in the matter.
 

valjean

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i know that some of his actions must have led to it but really if you raid a house and accidentally harm a child nextdoor while the only person in the house you raided is on the floor undercontrol
well, you are the one to blame. they had to have known the number of people living their after six months of surveillance
 

SocataSmoker

Well-Known Member
Get this thru your fucking head. I never swore an oath to protect the public. I never was trained in surveillance, weapon tactics or even fucking public relations.

WHO THE FUCK CARES WHAT THE FUCKING RAID WAS FOR.

Their job is to ensure the do their job without harming the public. They completely overlooked the fact there is a kid there. Not like it was winter and they didn't see the kid because he was hiding inside.

This happened early summer/late spring. Her and her kid were always in the front yard, or in the driveway....or walking to the store, or taking my vehicle......because I was such a cunty coke dealer, that I thought I should help a single mom get her son to school. Fuck I was such a cunt, that I even thought......I know what'll piss her off....I'll give her cab money sometimes if I happen to need my car. Wow, she must have hated me.

She can't afford to move, and I was there first. Yet I am at fault.

Get that top sentence through my head?

So... you say they were always outside... then I am more than sure the police knew there was a kid inside, what makes you think they didn't? Because they moved fast through the house?

And now, you admit that you were dealing cocaine... I think you're just as bad as any corrupt cop in history, you dealing cocaine supports organizations that use kids in ways you wouldn't want to hear about.

As I said, share the blame, you're not completely at fault... but you're not innocent either, the cops were there because of you.


i know that some of his actions must have led to it but really if you raid a house and accidentally harm a child nextdoor while the only person in the house you raided is on the floor undercontrol well, you are the one to blame. they had to have known the number of people living their after six months of surveillance
I'm sure they knew exactly how many people were there, the mother and kid included...
 
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