List of Things Christianity Has Made Worse

[Hepheastus420]

Nothing is being dropped here.. And that jackass tsh can suck a donkey dong!

My mind is not weak like tsh's boxi skills, lol


I will never listen to the shit that comes out of that douches mouth. Nothing productive and all retard talk!

lol, I understand your point oly.
i'm just saying that generally, people that want to be heard should show respect. TSH lacks respect, so he doesn't deserve for you to listen to him.

 

[The Chemist Brothers]

putting cockiness before compassion

compassion is what drives atheists to enlighten others, if you knew the way your psyche had been structured as a child and the world you believed in was a lie, you'd feel compelled to help those still stuck in the delusion right?

 

[olylifter420]

Why do you think its wrong to tell people what to believe in being a believer, yet you atheists are "compelled" to tell believers what not to believe?

You are funny man

compassion is what drives atheists to enlighten others, if you knew the way your psyche had been structured as a child and the world you believed in was a lie, you'd feel compelled to help those still stuck in the delusion right?

 

[Beefbisquit]

Most atheists are skeptical minded, critical thinking people. It's not that atheists are just trying to get people to stop believing in god, it's about not falling victim to superstitious thinking and group think. Religion just happens to fall into the bin with everything else supernatural. If it was testable or verifiable, it wouldn't be supernatural it'd be natural.

 

[olylifter420]

And i guess most believers are not critical thinkers and are extremely stupid... I just dont see how any atheist is sincere or considerate, most just feel superior in their way of thinking logically and you all can say otherwise, but i have seen enough of that hypocricy!

 

[Padawanbater2]

compassion is what drives atheists to enlighten others, if you knew the way your psyche had been structured as a child and the world you believed in was a lie, you'd feel compelled to help those still stuck in the delusion right?

Good post TCB

And i guess most believers are not critical thinkers and are extremely stupid... I just dont see how any atheist is sincere or considerate, most just feel superior in their way of thinking logically and you all can say otherwise, but i have seen enough of that hypocricy!

That isn't the case at all. Most believers simply fall victim to things they are unaware of, mechanisms inside the brain that affect the choices and decisions we all make based on the things we've learned as individuals. You must realize these things exist, you must acknowledge how they affect a person. Simply KNOWING about them provide you with more ammunition to combat them than I or anyone else ever could. It's something you must do for yourself.

Is it hypocrisy when you wake up in the morning with a stomach ache and you go the doctor and he tells you you have appendicitis?

 

[Beefbisquit]

And i guess most believers are not critical thinkers and are extremely stupid... I just dont see how any atheist is sincere or considerate, most just feel superior in their way of thinking logically and you all can say otherwise, but i have seen enough of that hypocricy!

Not everyone that has a masters degree thinks they're better than people who don't. Some do, but not all; it's the same with people who have taken the time to develop critical thinking skills.

People who believe in god can still be extremely intelligent, there's been tons of intelligent theists all through history. They just have to be happy with only having faith to explain their theistic views, and lots of them are! It's the theists that try to fight with scientists and the government about things we can actually observe and test, that have skewed views on reality because of their religious practices that are the problem.

 

[mindphuk]

And i guess most believers are not critical thinkers and are extremely stupid...

Come on man! We've been over this before. Stop making these types of strawman arguments. Not having good critical thinking skills does not make a person stupid. Critical thinking is a skill that must be learned even though like other skills, it might come more naturally for some individuals. Would you call someone that can't play the piano stupid? If you are the type of person that is generally skeptical, you probably are going to have some skepticism/questions about god and the religion that you most closely associate with. If you don't question god and religion, then you either aren't a skeptical thinker or you are able to compartmentalize your theistic views from the rest of your beliefs. I know a lot of people that fall under this last category.

You do very well with your debating when you drop the attacks and indignant attitude labeling us hypocrites and arrogant. You and I have had some really great discussions (IMO) and it only worked because we both respected each other's POV and refrained from insults and straw men.

 

[tharoomman]

Man, I love the title to this thread and the fact it has 5 stars. I also think Christianity has caused A WHOLE LOT of bad things. Like fucking horrible things. Not that I place that blame on today's Christians.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Man, I love the title to this thread and the fact it has 5 stars. I also think Christianity has caused A WHOLE LOT of bad things. Like fucking horrible things. Not that I place that blame on today's Christians.

A distinction today's atheists don't get a lot of credit for.

 

[olylifter420]

That isn't the case at all. Most believers simply fall victim to things they are unaware of, mechanisms inside the brain that affect the choices and decisions we all make based on the things we've learned as individuals. You must realize these things exist, you must acknowledge how they affect a person. Simply KNOWING about them provide you with more ammunition to combat them than I or anyone else ever could. It's something you must do for yourself.

Is it hypocrisy when you wake up in the morning with a stomach ache and you go the doctor and he tells you you have appendicitis?

People who believe in god can still be extremely intelligent, there's been tons of intelligent theists all through history. They just have to be happy with only having faith to explain their theistic views, and lots of them are! It's the theists that try to fight with scientists and the government about things we can actually observe and test, that have skewed views on reality because of their religious practices that are the problem.

Come on man! We've been over this before. Stop making these types of strawman arguments. Not having good critical thinking skills does not make a person stupid. Critical thinking is a skill that must be learned even though like other skills, it might come more naturally for some individuals. Would you call someone that can't play the piano stupid? If you are the type of person that is generally skeptical, you probably are going to have some skepticism/questions about god and the religion that you most closely associate with. If you don't question god and religion, then you either aren't a skeptical thinker or you are able to compartmentalize your theistic views from the rest of your beliefs. I know a lot of people that fall under this last category.

I am sorry for being a bit rude fellas, it is just that sometimes the message i get from some posts seems as if though believers will never be considered to have valid points in anything, hence the "and i guess most believers are not critical thinkers and are extremely stupid" remark... I just think I share many of the same interests as you all with the only difference being that i am a believer. I try to contribute, but it seems my efforts are futile to say the least.

You do very well with your debating when you drop the attacks and indignant attitude labeling us hypocrites and arrogant. You and I have had some really great discussions (IMO) and it only worked because we both respected each other's POV and refrained from insults and straw men.

Again, i am sorry for being rude. I too believe that i have learned plenty from our discussions and i really appreciate em...

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

Im sorry olly but how can you expect a sane human to listen to someone who believes in something without evidence , would you take seriousley a man who came over to you and said he speaks to little fairys in his back yard ? fairys have as much credability as your god . im sorry but i cant listen to anything a believer says as i think they are mentally retarded .

 

[Hepheastus420]

Im sorry olly but how can you expect a sane human to listen to someone who believes in something without evidence , would you take seriousley a man who came over to you and said he speaks to little fairys in his back yard ? fairys have as much credability as your god . im sorry but i cant listen to anything a believer says as i think they are mentally retarded .

where is your proof believers are mentally retarded? I guess it's cool if you can believe we are mentally retarded without proof.

 

[sso]

...christianity has the whole "believe this shit or burn forever" going for it.
which is really a turn off for most people not raised in it.
and the "everything sucks right now, but if you believe and have faith in the lord, you will have it so much better after im dead"
which is usually followed with "ok now give us a donation" (so we can have it so much better right now)

sure.

believing in a god that loves ya and takes care of ya, great.
but once you implicate the bible in that, you just have much more questions than answers.
plus, you cant call yourself a christian.

not really.

have you given up all your possessions?
if not, you are just a fan, not a follower of christ.
see thats the problem.

most people can not read the bible, without skipping parts.
saying stuff like "thats not for people today, thats for people then" ("the rules change people, deal with it")
to everyone thats considered intelligent today.
the bible is mostly hogwash with a few good points.

no different from any other silly pagan religion (after all, christianity was combined with many pagan traditions to lure in more people)

its all that stuff, ignoring the obvious and all that talk of fearing the lord. ("behave or ill fucking burn ya!")
"here´s free will, now do what i want or ill burn ya"
of course you can interpret the bible in so many ways and thats the problem.
burning and torturing people of other faiths, was totally acceptable to the religious of that time (and reading that same bible as you do)

because they were saving them from an eternity of torture.

see..

either you say, the bible is a mixmatch of totally different things and ideas, most of which born of some delusional primitive fuck´s mind.
maybe there was a jesus, but mostly we can not be sure of anything about him or what he said.
maybe there is a god, but we sure arent close to proving that (making god irrelevant)


either that, or god is insane and we are fucked. (if you take the bible literally)
you can not come to any other conclusion, reading the bible with no reverance for it.
that either its god is a vicious lunatic dictator and we should join the devil in rebellion if its true.

or its just a mix of some ideas about god and some stories that might be true (they were written long after the fact and mostly by nonwitnesses)

along with some stupid stories of delusional people
so, yes, anyone claiming to believe in the bible and be a follower of any religion in particular, looks and probably is a fool (somewhat anyway)
sure , might be a god, but im damn positive that all of the religions are mostly wrong about it.
sure there might be the spiritual, but its obvious that the religions havent got much to do with it for the most part.

too restrictive and full of stupid limiting ideas.

 

[Heisenberg]

Im sorry olly but how can you expect a sane human to listen to someone who believes in something without evidence , would you take seriousley a man who came over to you and said he speaks to little fairys in his back yard ? fairys have as much credability as your god . im sorry but i cant listen to anything a believer says as i think they are mentally retarded .

While I agree that an evidence based approach to the truth is the only one that lends confidence, answers come from investigation and logically consistent evaluation, not from blanket exclusion. We can reject conclusions and assertions based on them being flawed, not following a sound method or not being thorough, but we cannot reject them based solely on the claim. If someone says they have fairies in their back yard, and you automatically decide they are retarded, you exclude your chances of ever seeing fairies, as slim as they may be. It's imperative to remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, that anything which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, but only a fool decides there is no evidence without first investigating. The proper thing to do, if you are motivated enough to comment an opinion, is examine what's being said and refute it. If you simply decide that everyone who believes something different from you has mental problems and doesn't deserve to be listened to, then you only end up describing a reflection of yourself. Presuming that there is no evidence, that evidence doesn't matter, or refusing to listen to evidence, is the very mistake most religious people make; a closed mind is a closed mind no matter which side of the debate it falls.

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

where is your proof believers are mentally retarded? I guess it's cool if you can believe we are mentally retarded without proof.

good morning heapatitus , my proof is that they believe in something without evidence , the same as id say someone who talks to fairys at the bottom of there yard is mental , i say someone who believes in a higher being without evidence is mental .

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

While I agree that an evidence based approach to the truth is the only one that lends confidence, answers come from investigation and logically consistent evaluation, not from blanket exclusion. We can reject conclusions and assertions based on them being flawed, not following a sound method or not being thorough, but we cannot reject them based solely on the claim. If someone says they have fairies in their back yard, and you automatically decide they are retarded, you exclude your chances of ever seeing fairies, as slim as they may be. It's imperative to remember that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, that anything which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, but only a fool decides there is no evidence without first investigating. The proper thing to do, if you are motivated enough to comment an opinion, is examine what's being said and refute it. If you simply decide that everyone who believes something different from you has mental problems and doesn't deserve to be listened to, then you only end up describing a reflection of yourself. Presuming that there is no evidence, that evidence doesn't matter, or refusing to listen to evidence, is the very mistake most religious people make; a closed mind is a closed mind no matter which side of the debate it falls.

yeah anyway someone who believes in something that they can not prove exists is mental in my book .and to be honest olly has never come up with one scrap of evidence his god exists therefore i consider him mentally retarded or at least mentally challenged .

 

[Hepheastus420]

good morning heapatitus , my proof is that they believe in something without evidence , the same as id say someone who talks to fairys at the bottom of there yard is mental , i say someone who believes in a higher being without evidence is mental .

I understand you BELIEVE this, but where's your evidence?

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

Ahem,... Cough, cough, fuck you, coug, cough


You mum is a whore who gave birth to a piece of shit, wait, she too damn fat to know what hole it came from, eventually that piece of shit evloved eyes and somehow became you...

Ahem...cough...fuck you..ahemfuckyou....

typical disgusting hate filled ,violent slurr by a so called christian lol

 

[Hepheastus420]

typical disgusting hate filled ,violent slurr by a so called christian lol

I guess I missed the part where oly said he was perfect.