Bums and dogs...

[cannabineer]

A dog is not property.

It's mine after I recover it.

No.

Dogs are legally property. "Recover" is a whitewash of "steal". The bum has the same civil rights as you and I, and that's the elephant in this room. cn

 

[cannabineer]

IMO adding "leaving the dog tied in the sun" at the end of option 2 would add some more "honesty" to the unfair options.

But the verity of that has been challenged. It's in the other thread. cn

 

[Hepheastus420]

So you guys agree that both sides assume too much to make an accurate decision?

Do you think it's better to trust the words from somebody who knows alot more of the situation or do you think it's better to assume a bunch of things and call h8 a liar?

 

[srh88]

damn this threads still going on, havent been on too much busy playing with my new dog.

 

[Hepheastus420]

Dogs are legally property. "Recover" is a whitewash of "steal". The bum has the same civil rights as you and I, and that's the elephant in this room. cn

Hmmm.. I wonder where the hobo kept his papers showing he owns that dog.

Steal is automatically programmed into most of our heads as a bad thing. In some cases it is justified.

Who cares? if the dog was suffering like h8 said it was, then the dog should be saved. So simple.

 

[srh88]

Hmmm.. I wonder where the hobo kept his papers showing he owns that dog.

Steal is automatically programmed into most of our heads as a bad thing. In some cases it is justified.

Who cares? if the dog was suffering like h8 said it was, then the dog should be saved. So simple.

whats funny is you blazin and fab know the most about this dog, these people honestly dont know shit.. we were talkin bout it a week or 2 before i did it, so honestly.. this 20 page piece of shit dont mean nothing

 

[cannabineer]

Hmmm.. I wonder where the hobo kept his papers showing he owns that dog.

Steal is automatically programmed into most of our heads as a bad thing. In some cases it is justified.

Who cares? if the dog was suffering like h8 said it was, then the dog should be saved. So simple.

As long as you're in Fortress of Righteousness mode, I don't think I can have a fruitful debate about this. Back into the big bag with me. cn

 

[Hepheastus420]

But the verity of that has been challenged. It's in the other thread. cn

So you guys assume h8 was lying when he said the dog was tied in the sun all day?

Then I assume h8 was lying that the hobo owned the dog. Therefore, h8 didn't steal it. Challenged. I like your strategy. Assume h8 is lying, make up your own story, and say the original story is wrong and immoral. Niiice

 

[Hepheastus420]

As long as you're in Fortress of Righteousness mode, I don't think I can have a fruitful debate about this. Back into the big bag with me. cn

So you're the only one that gets to think they're right all the time? Shame.. I thought we were having a civil debate. Oh well.. Later

 

[srh88]

But the verity of that has been challenged. It's in the other thread. cn

cept heres the deal neer... this right here is the internet, when youre a judge smashing a gavel into a podium asking for verification, its all yours bro... but on a website, just believe what i tell you people, what kicks would i get out of telling a bunch of people i dont even know... and trust me, if i wanted some sort of reasoning for doing something wrong, this definitely wouldnt be the thing id be askin forgiveness for.. like i said this is rollitup.com .....half of you motherfuckers lie about anything, theres what... 500,000 people on here, honestly i cant even keep up no more.. just with toke and talk because its beeen slowwwwwww... no wonder this thread hit 20 pages.. ill keep my ass in haven

 

[cannabineer]

So you're the only one that gets to think they're right all the time? Shame.. I thought we were having a civil debate. Oh well.. Later

If you read, you'll see that you're projecting my complaint back onto me. I was reacting to your making assumptions, giving them the force of truth, basing your deductions on them ... then complaining that the others were making assumptions. I'm trying, and failing, to get you to realize your rational stance isn't secure. It isn't about whether I am right or wrong about the main topic at all. cn

 

[Hepheastus420]

I bet you h8 is laughing at y'all more than I am.. He's probably looking at the dog run around playing with the other dogs, chilling, and being happy while you guys say he's a monster lol.

 

[cannabineer]

cept heres the deal neer... this right here is the internet, when youre a judge smashing a gavel into a podium asking for verification, its all yours bro... but on a website, just believe what i tell you people, what kicks would i get out of telling a bunch of people i dont even know... and trust me, if i wanted some sort of reasoning for doing something wrong, this definitely wouldnt be the thing id be askin forgiveness for.. like i said this is rollitup.com .....half of you motherfuckers lie about anything, theres what... 500,000 people on here, honestly i cant even keep up no more.. just with toke and talk because its beeen slowwwwwww... no wonder this thread hit 20 pages.. ill keep my ass in haven

I understand that. I don't have all the facts. However there is one principle that informs my opinion: and that is, the homeless guy and I are equal before whatever law or moral standard one wishes to invoke. That's the extent of my opinion. cn

 

[Hepheastus420]

cept heres the deal neer... this right here is the internet, when youre a judge smashing a gavel into a podium asking for verification, its all yours bro... but on a website, just believe what i tell you people, what kicks would i get out of telling a bunch of people i dont even know... and trust me, if i wanted some sort of reasoning for doing something wrong, this definitely wouldnt be the thing id be askin forgiveness for.. like i said this is rollitup.com .....half of you motherfuckers lie about anything, theres what... 500,000 people on here, honestly i cant even keep up no more.. just with toke and talk because its beeen slowwwwwww... no wonder this thread hit 20 pages.. ill keep my ass in haven

Indeed, I believe I'll retreat to the haven soon.. It's just I don't get why these dudes have to call bs on everything. In the haven, if you made that uplifting op, people would be happy as fuck.. Here, people call bull and start calling you a liar and a thief. Weird.

 

[keepitcoastal]

damn this threads still going on, havent been on too much busy playing with my new dog.

bring him to the norcal bbq watch how fast he stops being you new dog.

i have ACTUALLY SAVED abused dogs. and if that dog had been truly physically abused hes not gonna be all better by taking him home and giving him some food. it took 6months to recover my abused dog to be social around people and other dogs again

sounds too me like you took a possibly slightly malnourished dog but you never indicated real abuse. you could have bought food as iv suggested multiple times.

you didnt save that dog from an abusive owner your just a piece of shit with some fucked up morals. dog needs food....steal from owner! your genius.

like i said bring him to the norcal bbq

 

[Hepheastus420]

I understand that. I don't have all the facts. However there is one principle that informs my opinion: and that is, the homeless guy and I are equal before whatever law or moral standard one wishes to invoke. That's the extent of my opinion. cn

Who cares about the homeless guy? This is about the dog, fuck the dude.

 

[cannabineer]

Who cares about the homeless guy? This is about the dog, fuck the dude.

You just perfectly summarized my problem with your attitude. cn

 

[StevenSD420]

So you know exactly how long it would take for them to respond?

Yeah. Here's a real life event for you. I was 12 years old playing basketball and baseball with my dad at a local high school. After playing catch for awhile, we hear a bird screeching, in pain and saw it hobbling around on a field near by. We go over and check it out and clearly see it's wing is broken. He calls Animal Control, after I say we should take it home first to care for it, and in 15 minutes Animal Control shows up, takes the bird and thanks us for what we did.

Yeah. I'm sure it wouldn't take that much longer, unless there some other more pressing issue happening for them first, which in case you have no control over and still gives you no right.

Fair enough, not relevant.. But fair

Lol your ignorance just keeps showing. Anything is relevant when you say "depending on the situation."

How is h8 a thief? He hasn't broken any laws.. Didn't steal a thing. Unless you wanna play the vagina card and say "he stole the hobos last will to live" lol.

He still a man's pet. Grow the fuck up.

So you call me naive then say I make sense? Hmmm.. You assume more than me on the situation. Think about it.

Re-read what I said, shit you're starting to not make this fun for me anymore. I said that you are naive, and that makes your position on this issue make sense. I didn't say you made sense, again maybe I should be more clear for you...

Nice insult.. The one about the critical thinking. Like, do I cry about it orrrr.. How does this work?

It wasn't an insult. It's actually a great skill to have if you are lacking with it; it makes living day-to-day life so much better. You think of solutions to your life instead of bitch about others and their property. It's awesome. You should try =)

Again, show me where in that question did I mention the US.. You keep bringing it up and I'm wondering why.. Can I just bring up france for no reason?

You didn't mention it, but I DID so that it made your question more relevant to this thread, instead of just being some BS question trying to get someone who doesn't know the whole facts to answer.

Tackling someone isn't assault? hahahahah.. And then you call me ignorant. Priceless.

Yeah it's not when you are preventing a crime. Again you intelligence is showing. If it was a crime, I would've been charged for tackling a 17 year old kid who was trying to rob liquor from the store next to where I work. Once again, quit assuming.

You seem to enjoy personal insults. Is that your way of pouting when someone goes against you?

Suggesting you to do research before you spout off like you know better isn't an insult... well it could be if you don't like being told you are wrong.

 

[srh88]

I understand that. I don't have all the facts. However there is one principle that informs my opinion: and that is, the homeless guy and I are equal before whatever law or moral standard one wishes to invoke. That's the extent of my opinion. cn

i understand that completely.. like i said before fuck that dude, he put himself in that situation the dog didnt.. and you all wanna call me a thief and shit.. but hows a homeless dude get a lab puppy, i might just be jumpin to conclusions.. but hey this is rollitup its allowed right?? i mean, theres 20 pages of it right here..

and another problem with today, everyones afraid to fuckin act man.. call the cops call the spca.. why so id have to wait a week for the same fucking outcome... cooooome on people.

 

[srh88]

bring him to the norcal bbq watch how fast he stops being you new dog.

i have ACTUALLY SAVED abused dogs. and if that dog had been truly physically abused hes not gonna be all better by taking him home and giving him some food. it took 6months to recover my abused dog to be social around people and other dogs again

sounds too me like you took a possibly slightly malnourished dog but you never indicated real abuse. you could have bought food as iv suggested multiple times.

you didnt save that dog from an abusive owner your just a piece of shit with some fucked up morals. dog needs food....steal from owner! your genius.

like i said bring him to the norcal bbq

lol dude i work for my money... that dude wants steady food he should find a job