Bums and dogs...

What would you do?

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cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Hepheastus420 said:
If you break down my kind-of-but-not-really insults, I'm sure you would agree. You confronted me before I confronted you. This is true. The problem is that I took your confrontation the wrong way.
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No worries. I am doing my best to disagree with your take on the topic while not attacking anyone's person. cn
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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cannabineer said:
The part I keep trying to point out "is not cool" is placing the rights of the human behind the needs of the dog. That is my opinion, of course, but a strongly-held one. The welfare of the dog is only part of the story here, and the other part that interests me greatly receives short shrift from you.

The business with the balls and vaginas is a matter of decorum ... I'm not seeking to be personally starchy about it, but i do think that it doesn't help the tenor of the debate, but gets in the way. Again, my opinion. cn
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IMO the dog and human are both on the street. They both have conscious minds and they are both struggling. Now the human may want the dog, but the dog needs to survive. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the homeless man, but that's not what this is about. If you guys made a thread about saving a homeless guy, I'd cheer it on. For now, I'm just cheering on the fact that at least one of them was saved from the struggling lifestyle. And I don't appreciate it when these other members call h8 a thief and a liar when he only did a good deed.

And even if he didn't do a good deed, he had damn good intentions. But people would rather insult him than say good job or something.

I guess it is a little pointless to mention vaginas and balls in a debate.. So that'll end between me and you. Everybody else gets no mercy though.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Hepheastus420 said:
IMO the dog and human are both on the street. They both have conscious minds and they are both struggling. Now the human may want the dog, but the dog needs to survive. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for the homeless man, but that's not what this is about. If you guys made a thread about saving a homeless guy, I'd cheer it on. For now, I'm just cheering on the fact that at least one of them was saved from the struggling lifestyle. And I don't appreciate it when these other members call h8 a thief and a liar when he only did a good deed.

And even if he didn't do a good deed, he had damn good intentions. But people would rather insult him than say good job or something.

I guess it is a little pointless to mention vaginas and balls in a debate.. So that'll end between me and you. Everybody else gets no mercy though.
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OK then, back to the meat* of our dissent.

You posit that srh88 did a good deed. I'm not convinced, since the desire of the homeless guy was (imo) given not enough weight.
Also, I do not put the needs and wants of the two lives here on an even basis. One is a dog; the other a human. I automatically accord the human priority.
I am a bit mystified when I encounter "the dog comes first" as a morally tenable starting point.

So that is where we seem to disagree, and I won't belabor the point, since we won't either of us win the other over to our way of thinking. Will this do? cn

*I am quite pleased with myself ... I typed this without giggling.
 
keepitcoastal

keepitcoastal

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TheChosen said:
None. He's in the crowds because he's too much of a puss to get in the ring.
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lol

i spent YEARS on a jiu jitsu team in the bayarea iv been in plenty of rings. also trained in traditional boxing and kick boxing

nice try though....

i just dont think stealing a mans dog is right. and its something i personally would fight over
 
srh88

srh88

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cannabineer said:
OK then, back to the meat* of our dissent.

You posit that srh88 did a good deed. I'm not convinced, since the desire of the homeless guy was (imo) given not enough weight.
Also, I do not put the needs and wants of the two lives here on an even basis. One is a dog; the other a human. I automatically accord the human priority.
I am a bit mystified when I encounter "the dog comes first" as a morally tenable starting point.

So that is where we seem to disagree, and I won't belabor the point, since we won't either of us win the other over to our way of thinking. Will this do? cn

*I am quite pleased with myself ... I typed this without giggling.
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converstation might as well be religion or politics
 
srh88

srh88

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keepitcoastal said:
lol

i spent YEARS on a jiu jitsu team in the bayarea iv been in plenty of rings. also trained in traditional boxing and kick boxing

nice try though....

i just dont think stealing a mans dog is right. and its something i personally would fight over
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ralph macchio is that you?
 
Hepheastus420

Hepheastus420

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cannabineer said:
OK then, back to the meat* of our dissent.

You posit that srh88 did a good deed. I'm not convinced, since the desire of the homeless guy was (imo) given not enough weight.
Also, I do not put the needs and wants of the two lives here on an even basis. One is a dog; the other a human. I automatically accord the human priority.
I am a bit mystified when I encounter "the dog comes first" as a morally tenable starting point.

So that is where we seem to disagree, and I won't belabor the point, since we won't either of us win the other over to our way of thinking. Will this do? cn

*I am quite pleased with myself ... I typed this without giggling.
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And I disagree with you because in this situation the dog had the chance at a better life and needed it to survive (going by h8's description), but the human only wanted something. Needs come before wants no matter if it's between a human or another animal.
If the human was hurt physically over the whole situation, my mind might change. Guess I'm just being a hard ass because I don't see how he can be so emotionaly attached to the dog. Yup, I said it all you dog lovers lol. His possible emotional situation seems worth it for the dog to have a better life IMO.

---As for the emotional attachment with a dog thing. A few of my best friends have been dogs.. And they have died. guess what I did though. I got over it. That's what I feel the hobo should do. --- not aimed at you neer.


But I do agree that in a way, humans are superior to dogs. If there was some sick game where there's a piece of steak and I had to choose to give it to the human or the dog to survive for another day, I'd give it to the human. Gotta stick with the pack.


But yeah, neither will win since this isn't a winning situation. Just opinions. This will do, neer.
 
KDiaz

KDiaz

Active Member
Theres a lot of hate for a stoner website hahaAnyways, srh how is the dog doing in the new place? Making the transition well? Getting along with Gibson? What's done is done and obviously nobody's mind is going to change, so keep us updated.And I think, in good gesture, when you see that bum you should give him food or useful items. Help him like you did his dog. I wouldn't give cash in case he does have an addiction, but for all we know maybe he's a war vet that fought for our rights to place dogs in better homes?
 
HomeLessBeans

HomeLessBeans

New Member
So to recap? If you think you are better than some one else, it is ok to 'recover' whatever they have? and it is not stealing?? nice

H8 the dog stealer, ya better hope karma don't come by to visit.you wil not like it. what you did was wrong and these poser tools who defend you are no better.

another thread highlighting the fine adult mentality here at RIU..
 
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