Ok so what's the big dealz with BHO?

PJ Diaz

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Yup doing it correctly is my goal. I have much to lose starting a fire or blowing myself up. I am really concerned about safety and not sure I have an adequate space to work making honey oil. But I do want to try it when I gain a bit more knowledge to do it safely.
use common sense unfortunately there are alot of people that lack it, also a basic understanding of butane helps, knowing that it is heavier then air and pools on the floor is something to note.

and there are the basics dont smoke cigarettes, dont smoke blunts, and dont get a feeling like you need a dab in the middle of blasting.
i swear that has got to be how people are blowing themselves up blasting then doing a dab
There were two separate house fires in my town just in the last week and a half from sloppy and stupid BHO makers. Unless you have a room isolated from ANY pilot lights AND with VERY VERY good ventilation, you MUST ONLY make BHO outdoors. There are three guys in a medical induced coma right now because they burned themselves the fuck up. They may die.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24208857/police-santa-cruz-garage-fire-started-drug-lab

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24277270/police-second-santa-cruz-fire-started-hash-oil
 

midnitetoak

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Wel just finished reading Oakleys ISO thread. Dudes really got that shit down. I never knew you could make honey oil so clear using just ISO, cold temps, quick filter, and slow purge. Now I'm debating whether to try using heat to purge or not. I am worried about getting particles in my Pyrex while it's evapping overnight as I plan to use my filthy basement as workspace (mainly why I'm shying away from butane extraction). I've got an old electric griddle that works like shit to make pancakes so I don't use it... I bet it would work well to low heat purge my oil... Hmmm
 

midnitetoak

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There were two separate house fires in my town just in the last week and a half from sloppy and stupid BHO makers. Unless you have a room isolated from ANY pilot lights AND with VERY VERY good ventilation, you MUST ONLY make BHO outdoors. There are three guys in a medical induced coma right now because they burned themselves the fuck up. They may die.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24208857/police-santa-cruz-garage-fire-started-drug-lab

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24277270/police-second-santa-cruz-fire-started-hash-oil
Yup I'm going to try doing an ISO extraction mostly because my workspace is not openly ventilated enough and going outside would draw the attention of neighbors. Oh sure I could open up all the windows & doors but butane gas will just linger on the floor.
 

midnitetoak

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My lungs feel much better "vapeing" the oil, and I notice I cough much more when I smoke flowers at all now. I smoked a blunt for that matter last night, and coughed my ass off through the whole thing. I woke up this morning with terrible dry mouth for the first time in awhile too. I definitely love my water filtered oil dabs! Though I do usually love my qwiso, as with anything i think starting material can make the biggest difference when its all said and done. Technique being right behind it. I actually just got done dabbing some LA confidential BHO a friend of mine traded me the other day. It was decent, seemed clean enough but did have a weird flavor to it(which easily could have been the material). I think alot of the stuff I've seen from you BHO guys is prolly better.
Hey TC I saw in another post/different thread you mentioned you are using a vape pen for concentrate. Last week I got a disposable waxy pen to try vaping some hash & I was so impressed with how it worked that I ordered a rechargeable model with cartridges to vape both wax and flowers. It just arrived & will be trying it tonight. Do you use yours to vape that tasty looking gold shatter you make? How do you like it?
 

midnitetoak

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No heat man.. I put up side by side pics of the finished one using heat and one no heat the other day.... https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/732569-first-2-qwiso-batches-please-4.html
Not the best ever but I think it looks tasty for sure
Whoa just saw it... Lol I thought your avatar pic was taken right after you chopped a fat rail.. Just realized its white qwiso, you sir are a twisted genius. I mean that in a good way. I see what you mean about the difference in heat or no heat but Oakley suggests you need some low heat to purge quickly & avoid particulate matter (dust) from entering the end product. Makes sense...I also have a dehumidifier to try TCs evap method. Still torn
I plan to do a run with about 10g of a sativa dom strain called Cotton Candy....it's real potent bud should yield well & it's all manicured bud. Should I expect it to look like coke with no heat applied? Or was this just an experiment? I'm curious how you got it to look like that
 

qwizoking

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Well I've got my technique down pretty nicely. The color comes from very fine grain boundaries, when melted it turned orange kinda from all the red wax in her..to get it fine like that I use a natural evap no heat and slowly reducing temps helps to keep it supersaturated..that is not from me scraping it super finely or crushing shatter or anything else idk..when it falls out of solution in the iso while evapping its a white crystall.......but I also use landrace sativas, that particular one was chopped a good 8 weeks early cause I was impatient................tc has a good method and I urge you to try it though...you can use a cheese cloth I hear but I've never used one, for dust
 

Thundercat

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I use a window AC filter to cover my dish. It seems to keep it clean. I've read about people using a bandana, I have considered covering it with my silk screen I use for dry sieving hash. But the AC filter works well, and obviously I avoid getting any loose dirt or dust in the air above it. If you have the dehumidifier around I gotta suggest trying it. The warm air gives just the tiniest bit of heat to help the evap without destroying all the terpenes, and the moving air speeds the evap I believe as well. I usually rotate the dish once durring the process when 98% of the liquid is gone already.

I got a sticky pen wax burner a few weeks back. Its cool, I like being able to use it out in public without anyone really even giving me a second look. I was walking into the grocery store the other day hitting it :). I have been vapeing that delicious shatter in her, I find I can make a little worm or stick with the shatter, and just set it in the chamber. If it gets stuck, just push it down alittle and your good to go again.
 

PJ Diaz

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I always heat purge my iso, and I do it hot and fast too. I put my glass dish in a huge crock pot full of water on HIGH! I purge 16 oz of iso in 2 to 3 hours and it's ready for harvest. I put it next to a window with a window fan circulation air from in/out over the top of it all. Here's a quick pic of the latest batch:

 

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Guzias1

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There were two separate house fires in my town just in the last week and a half from sloppy and stupid BHO makers. Unless you have a room isolated from ANY pilot lights AND with VERY VERY good ventilation, you MUST ONLY make BHO outdoors. There are three guys in a medical induced coma right now because they burned themselves the fuck up. They may die.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24208857/police-santa-cruz-garage-fire-started-drug-lab

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24277270/police-second-santa-cruz-fire-started-hash-oil

Very fucking irritating. It gets to me... especially at home
 

Twitch

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There were two separate house fires in my town just in the last week and a half from sloppy and stupid BHO makers. Unless you have a room isolated from ANY pilot lights AND with VERY VERY good ventilation, you MUST ONLY make BHO outdoors. There are three guys in a medical induced coma right now because they burned themselves the fuck up. They may die.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24208857/police-santa-cruz-garage-fire-started-drug-lab

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/santacruz/ci_24277270/police-second-santa-cruz-fire-started-hash-oil
yea i agree sloppy bho makers common sense would have told them that.
 

mrcryce

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To understand why BHO is superior to bubble hash just think about what is happening in each process. Bubble hash is using water and ice to physically remove trichomes from plant matter for collection -- unfortunately this process is not very selective so other things besides trichomes end up in the bubble hash. When making BHO, the butane selectively dissolves the THC so that you end up with a mixture of butane + THC, and if all the butane is properly removed, you are left with a much higher concentration of THC than you would from bubble hash. The disadvantage of course is that to remove butane, you need heat (which also cooks off terpenes) or vacuum (expensive, and also still lose some terpenes). While I can't say definitively that there are no long-term health risks of smoking "butane soup," the MSDS for butane shows that it is relatively benign, even with chronic abuse. (direct inhalation!)
 

vacpurge

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I always heat purge my iso, and I do it hot and fast too.
you wanna talk about a fast heat purge... oh man. we used to take our ISO mix, which was WAY over rinsed, im talking bud in the ISO for half hour. pour a cap full or two onto a mirror, and light it on fire!!!!! yes, we would evap the ISO via fire.

long story short, we ended up catching our ISO container with weed in it on fire and threw a flaming ISO dish across the room onto the couch.. burned the couch, a pillow, the carpet, and damn near shit my pants. I think that was one of the last times ive ever made ISO oil... 5 years ago or so.
 

Twitch

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you wanna talk about a fast heat purge... oh man. we used to take our ISO mix, which was WAY over rinsed, im talking bud in the ISO for half hour. pour a cap full or two onto a mirror, and light it on fire!!!!! yes, we would evap the ISO via fire.

long story short, we ended up catching out ISO container with weed in it on fire and threw a flaming ISO dish across the room onto the couch.. burned the couch, a pillow, the carpet, and damn near shit my pants. I think that was one of the last times ive ever made ISO oil... 5 years ago or so.
lmfao, thank you for sharing
 

vacpurge

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alright, I gotta add more details. making ISO in my buddies basement kinda by the back door on the floor like crackheads. we were only 16 and didnt know much more than the concept of making oil. it was small batch, we were broke high school kids, I think we had a half oz and probably a half liter of ISO or something.

we cut a 1L pop bottle bottom off, turned it upside down, and made it into a funnel, tied a few coffee filters on the end, fillet it with weed/ISO mix and let it drain through there. it took forever, the weed was sitting in the iso the whole time. we would let it drip 6 or 7 times on the mirror and hit it with a lighter real quick... worked alright I guess you could say lmao. eventually the coffee filter was getting clogged, and we were getting impatient and eager to smoke the oil.

so we poked a tiny tiny pin hole in the coffee filters to help it drain faster lol... it worked I guess, but all it did was let microscopic dust and shit into our oil.

eventually it STILL clogged and we were getting more impatient, we were also getting good at the whole fire/iso game and cocky too so we basically had a tiny bonfire ON the mirror and we just kept letting it drip into the fire feeding it and keeping it going. crazy eh?? well it still wasnt good enough for us.

my buddy put his face onto the open end of the 1L pop bottle, made it air tight, and blew on it... it made a piss stream of ISO come out of the filter, speeding things way up!!!! fuck yeah we thought. so he did that onto our little bonfire we had on the mirror... kept feeding it with ISO instead of starting a new one every 10 seconds.. rushing, stupid, I know.

it worked fine the first few times,then he got real cocky and got too close, or blew too hard I think and it kinda blew out our hole in the filter, the flame travelled UP the stream, and lit the coffee filters and ISO bottle on fire, basically while it was still near his face. he was able to pull it away fast enough (kinda seen the flame travelling in slow motion... talk about a fuckin adrenaline rush!!!!) and panicked and threw the bottle into the corner, as he threw it, flaming ISO went everywhere, then a flaming bottle if ISO sat in the corner burning. my god what a mess and scare that was.

I panicked so fucking hard I seen my future flash before my eyes, I literally seen a year worth of shit I imagined happening if we burnt it down in about under 1/10th of a second, I could just picture me, him, our parents, and fire department on the road with a burnt down duplex. I was fucking scared, I felt sick. its amazing what the brain can do in a situation like that. I grabbed a pillow and smashed those fires on the couch as hard as ive ever hit something in my life, if that place went up in flames, I was going down with it. the ISO dish in the corner went out on its own, or my buddy put it out... cant quite remember, surprisingly it didnt do much damage. the shitty gross crack shack couch got a few decent burns, the carpet got a few decent burns, and ruined a pillow, and learned one hell of a fuckin lesson.

after everything calmed down, we cleaned up and smoked the oil haha. barely felt it though because of the adrenaline rush.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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Diversity Gentlemen

As my name implies; I dab a lot..exclusively BHO for near a full year.

I can't figure out why there seems to be an argument over what is better; oils, hash or flower..
And the oil guys seem good with all three.
Hash guys only like hash
Flower guys like hash and are scared t try bho.

Wtf?
I love em all...
Roll me a fatty, laced with some 120u hash.
Smoke a bowl with full melt on top
Full melt screen hits.
Full melt off the nail..

When the party is over and I want sleep now..

Bho dabs...like this..
dab.. DAb.. DAAB!!

Why discriminate?...I love all forms of lady cannabis.
 
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