A Tale of The Tape HPA vs 21st Century Flood and Drain

PetFlora

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I forget which medium you are using in this f/d? Obviously not rockwool as it tends to only need flooding 2-3 times/day and also this seems brand dependant as the different manufacturing processes employed seem to yield very different water retention properties.
You could never do this with RW. Even hydroton is sketchy, well it would work, but it sheds too much. LAVA ROCK- ROCKS
 

PetFlora

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Here we go photos here we go:

First photo is the biggest from hpa. Snapped her top awhile back, which is now ~ 8"
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My 21st Century F & D is kickin it. She is lovin the HydroResearch Veg+ BLOOM. Buds are twice as big as hpa

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Closet Clone in my DIY quasi-Bubbler
, using 4 large Oxystone cylinders under the Air Pot, which is filled with lava rock. I use a meat baster to supplement feed from the top ~ every hour

Added a 50 watt Repti-Glo lntense this morning before lights on.

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PetFlora

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I got my one pound jar of V + B late yesterday. Mixed a fresh batch and replaced the DM nutes in my hpa rez. The 2 plants in hpa continue to bud decently, but trichs are no better than a week ago.

Buds and trichs in my 2 other systems, where they have been slurping V + B for 1-2 weeks, are way ahead.

I am very curious to see how my hpa plants react.
 

cannabuilding

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Hey Petflora,

Read through the thread and the difference from the earlier pics to the latest are superb, Subbed for the ride man.

peace to all and happy growing.
 

PetFlora

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After 6 days of lowering F & D feed cycle to 20 minutes and seeing exceptional results, even since Friday's pics, this morning I dropped it to every 15 minutes.

The hpa hasn't responded yet, but it took 5 days from the switch for the F & D to take off, and boy has it.Fridays' pic I am going to put my forearm behind the snapped part of the main stalk for size reference. See 3rd pic in post #143 for a reference
 

PSUAGRO.

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You know I'm amazed at the FD and lava rock system..............I will be copying this in the future/stringent nute requirements??.......thanks
 

semor90

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damn bro. You need a better lights hose plants look awful leafy and have no tricomes. I just searched your entire thread looking for some nice juicy fat bud shots and was let down with this.


I am very sorry just thought I would let ya kno.
 

PetFlora

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You know I'm amazed at the FD and lava rock system..............I will be copying this in the future/stringent nute requirements??.......thanks
Early veg 200 ppm

mid veg 400 ppm (I went to 500 and plants started sexing, so I cut it back and they stopped)

When you are getting ready to flip, 5-600 ppms

Flower

Early 600

Mid 800

Late ~ 1000 ppms
 

polyarcturus

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looking good flora, been a while since ive been over here those last 3 pic look like they are gonna put out! keep up the good worK.

just ignore the haters.
 

PetFlora

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damn bro. You need a better lights hose plants look awful leafy and have no tricomes. I just searched your entire thread looking for some nice juicy fat bud shots and was let down with this.


I am very sorry just thought I would let ya kno.
First the only place to search for current pics in a thread or journal is to look the last pics posted. Why would you search my entire thread looking for more recent pics? Just thought I'd let YOU kno:dunce:

I cut the light to 12/12 on May 11th, so I think things are advancing nicely for 33 days. If you've got sticky pics after one month from flipping, by all means show them off!:roll:

I was using DM Gold nutes. Switched ~ 3 weeks ago to HydroResearch V & B. It took awhile for that plant to start getting sticky. The plant has roughly 4-5 weeks to go.

It's simply too early for a shitload of trichs
. I switched the other systems too, but 1-2 weeks after seeing very positive results from V & B.

New pics Friday
 

polyarcturus

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have you ever played with ionic? i started with the stuff (as far as hydro goes) and nothing has compared to it so far. balanced and no need to add anything, maybe a micro nute or some enzymes. but ive had some pretty successful grows with the stuff. i only go half dose with it at max tho.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Early veg 200 ppm

mid veg 400 ppm (I went to 500 and plants started sexing, so I cut it back and they stopped)

When you are getting ready to flip, 5-600 ppms

Flower

Early 600

Mid 800

Late ~ 1000 ppms
Thanks just saved this post...................And your doing it under T5!!! I can only imagine what this will do under CMH lighting/:hump:
 

PetFlora

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have you ever played with ionic? i started with the stuff (as far as hydro goes) and nothing has compared to it so far. balanced and no need to add anything, maybe a micro nute or some enzymes. but ive had some pretty successful grows with the stuff. i only go half dose with it at max tho.
Haven't tried it. Is it a dry formula? I refuse to pay shipping for water weight and V & B is starting to rock. Keep in mind I only switched the one plant 3 weeks ago. Friday's pics are gonna blow a few minds
 

PetFlora

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Got my tent yesterday. Been airing it out. Pretty excited. Very good quality from LEDwholesalers. 2 X 4, metal frame: $100 including shipping from CA to the east coast. Gonna use it for my seedling/clones + to finish plants in a pinch. Thinking to replace the homemade closet that was gifted; the one where the Quasi-Bubbler clone is finishing.

Just replaced a 46 watt cfl supplemental light with a 300w equivalent. I have a second one on hand and will probably need both when I double the grow space. I should have it up for Friday's pics.
 

Trichy Bastard

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damn bro. You need a better lights hose plants look awful leafy and have no tricomes. I just searched your entire thread looking for some nice juicy fat bud shots and was let down with this.


I am very sorry just thought I would let ya kno.
It doesn't even matter if you're right or wrong about your statement. Why would you think it's cool to pop in someone's thread and insult their work right off the bat? I've stepped into many threads where I only had bad things to say myself, but I certainly didn't make myself look like a prick by saying anything negative, I just quietly moved on to the next thread. I'm curious what you expected to gain from your comments? Or perhaps you didn't mean to come across the way you did?
 

polyarcturus

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Haven't tried it. Is it a dry formula? I refuse to pay shipping for water weight and V & B is starting to rock. Keep in mind I only switched the one plant 3 weeks ago. Friday's pics are gonna blow a few minds
no its a liquid google groth technologys (they also make bio-bizz(not buzz)) they may have dry forula but ithink it has to be liqued cuz everthing is held in suspension(keeping from breking down) and its got a ph buffer, brings it 6.4 with my tap water probably even better with an unbufferd water.

dont know 20$ for a L an it goes a ways used in moderation.
 

Cuebossa

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Very nice Petflora! I am intrigued by these hybrid systems you run. I may venture into more traditional hydroponics sometime but for now coco is my crutch :). I am curious to see how your finished product comes out with Veg+Bloom in pure hydro and hope it is consistent with what I am getting in soilless. Great growing!
 

PetFlora

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Thanks Cuebosso

TB From the way semor90 writes I'm guessing he's a very young stoner, who was probably high as fuck when he wrote it. I doubt he'll respond

Back to biz:


I erected my first ever store bought grow tent today. 2 X 4, metal frame lots of slots, + light tight air vents + a tough zipper system @ $100 shipped from ledwholesalers.com.

I don't have anything store bought to compare, but it seems like bargain- well thought out, and well made. Will post pic of it with tomorrow's photo shoot.

I am running a mix of UFO 90 + 105 w MaxLife + for low side lighting; 1cfl @ 46 watt + 1 @300 watt equivalent + 2 reptile bulbs - uh oh. These aren't on. Hmmmmm. Timer is about to go off, so it will have to wait until morning
to sort it out

 
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