Big Bud Grow Op

wow looks like an iron deficiency.Not good Ill keep fingers crossed for ya.

holy cramoly.....scary....I sure hope someone has an answered....thats scary....thats crappy to have that happening....

Ive done the same exact thing to a few of my girls. they will recover but it will take a bit...mine actually came back better than before.

Wash the leaves...Some sprays are very toxic and certain plants like marijuana cant handle them the same way others can.

Mine were like that and they kept getting a little worse for about a week maybe a week and half then new growth shot out everywhere.

I hope they will be ok

Thanks NSW; I've been spraying a foliar of pH'ed water with SuperThrive. I could dunk the plant it that would help. Maybe a drop or two of soap in the water? Whaddyathink?

potpimp said:

Thanks NSW; I've been spraying a foliar of pH'ed water with SuperThrive. I could dunk the plant it that would help. Maybe a drop or two of soap in the water? Whaddyathink?

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I would go for plain water. Everything you add to the water is phytotoxic to some degree and that includes soap and and even super thrive.

For now just go with plain water give them some nice good sprays until the water beads up and actually runs off of the leaves to remove any residue.

that really sucks man the plants looked beautiful but do NOT give up on them, they can really take a beating trust me.

Dont use nutes with the blueberry and if you do make sure they are at least half strength especially with such a rich soil mix as you have used.
I have never managed to successfully nute any of my pppxblueberry plants,they always burn to varying degrees.
My best advice with the blueberry would be to use 1 quarter strength nutes all the way through and use one plant to test any uppage of this dose.

Anyway the wilted plant looks like it has blocked pores,you need to wash each leaf and the stem down with some damp cloths gently and demist it every hour or so for a couple of days and it should pick up.

Man, just stop giving your plants shit for a while and they will recover.

When bad things happen, don't just look and take immediate action - take a picture, wait for some replys, and go from there. A plant at 15" shouldn't have all these deficiencies that you claim it does. Some might, but that would be extremely rare in my book. Just lay off the nutes for a watering or two, then put some 10-10-10 or 15-15-15 in there at 1/4-1/2 strength and you should be golden.

Marijuana is not as weak a plant as you may think, and would do a lot better WITHOUT nutes than with too many.

Gwarrior said:

Man, just stop giving your plants shit for a while and they will recover.

When bad things happen, don't just look and take immediate action - take a picture, wait for some replys, and go from there. A plant at 15" shouldn't have all these deficiencies that you claim it does. Some might, but that would be extremely rare in my book. Just lay off the nutes for a watering or two, then put some 10-10-10 or 15-15-15 in there at 1/4-1/2 strength and you should be golden.

Marijuana is not as weak a plant as you may think, and would do a lot better WITHOUT nutes than with too many.

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I belive he is growing hydro so you HAVE to give nutes.....It doesnt work like soil man...straight water would kill them.

His girls may only be 15" tall but they are old enough and VERY bushy.

Thanks for the advice, good and not-so-good. I know these are hardy plants if they can survive my growing attempts. I'm learning - the hard way, as probably a lot of you have. I've admitted many times on here that I totally suck at growing and have never grown a plant to maturity - or even close. The worst part is they almost always died from my own messing with them or total neglect. First of all, I'm not overnuting the blueberries; I know how sensitive they are and the only thing wrong with them was me spraying them with the orange peel bug juice. Otherwise they were the absolute perfect picture of health. The big bud was about the same, just a little lighter green which is probably just indicative of the strain. I've learned my lesson about fussing over every little detail and trying to fix it. I've also learned my lesson about doing a test on one plant on anything I change. I also learned my lesson about not asking NGT for help. I got some bad advice and overreacted, simple as that. I do lean towards loving my plants "to death". The upside of that is that I can be a good "mom" when necessary. I took the lone big bud and dunked it upside down in some plain water yesterday, rinsing it up and down, trying to get any remaining residue off. I pulled it out and it looked like a limp dishrag. I kissed it, talked to it, straightened it's stalk to face the single 65w CFL above it and left it to mend itself. When I came in this morning it looked 100% improved. The blueberries still looked really toasted so I pulled them out and started whacking. I noticed that the lower "branches" are almost always the ones that are damaged, never the branches directly above them. Why is that??? Anyway, I pruned all of them, including the other 3 big buds. I took a photo of what I trimmed off. I know it's a long shot but I'm going to try to make clones with some of the leaves off the blueberries; the stems seem very alive and even some of the leaf is still viable. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, right? I have them soaking in some pH'ed water now. They all look so much better with the damaged leaves removed and there is a lot of new growth and plenty of healthy leaves for photosynthesis. Also, the damaged leaves were the largest ones and removing them is giving a lot more light to the rest of the smaller leaves. Here is this mornings pix:

The 3 Big Buds:

Lone Big Bud (the one I wasn't sure would survive):

The Blue Berry after trimming:

The trimmings. The lighter leaves are from the 4 Big Buds; the darker leaves and the ones on the bottom are from the 5 Blueberry plants. I'm attempting to use some of the cuttings from the Blueberries as clones.

The Big Bud clones I took a week ago (yeah they got misted with the stuff too but not directly shot:

Well i hope they pick up for you.
I am going to feed my pppxblueberry nothing at all this grow except molasses as i have never successfully nuted them,without some degree of burn even if it was minor,i really believe that they don't like it as they are such a sensitive plant.

It would seem that they burn much more easily when they are in soil than in some kind of hydro setup,i have no idea why this is but i know of others who don't even bother to try to grow it anymore as it can be a real pain in the ass to grow well.

Anyways a few more weeks and i will start my new grow and use only the pppxblueberryxsativatriploidmale seeds that i have just made and you can have a look to see what they grow like from having no nutes at all whilst in soil.
Im hoping that because they require minimal nutes anyway and the fact that i am going to use mycorihazea fungus in a large pot of rich peat that this particular strain of weed will do well without any extra nutes being added.
Best of luck with them anyway

Thanks Nat. I've actually been pretty disappointed with the strain as a whole. Not only are they very fussy; you don't get a very good yield off them either. There are a lot of other great strains out there that are easier to grow and give you more weed too. I am looking forward to the taste and the high tho; it should be great and hopefully worth the effort. BTW, did you just invent the world's longest word "the pppxblueberryxsativatriploidmale"? LOL

I got blueberry fems from dutch passion, only got one decent plant out of it, it too was sensative to nutes, but its on track and growing like a beast.

My next grow has just got under way.

black domina
super skunk
super silver haze
cheese
hash plant

hey NGT....off topic...but who ever called a stain cheese and why? hahahahahaha...I noticed it in a bunch of posts and have sorta wondered so I thought I would pose the Q? don't mean to hijack the thread....Pimp...good luck man...it looks like ur rounding the corner....and maybe just lost some time....

cheese was the name given to it because of its amazing pungent odor.

it originally was a mutant skunk#1 from a really old batch of sensi seeds before the strain became so stabilized. True cheese is amazing smoke, knockout stuff, it was just a one off and has been passed around in clone form, big buddha released a seed version, but it was a back crossed version and they had to use an afghani for the male, the version i'm just about to try out is greenhouse's version, the outcome of these seeds will determine my faith in greenhouse.

potpimp said:

Thanks Nat. I've actually been pretty disappointed with the strain as a whole. Not only are they very fussy; you don't get a very good yield off them either. There are a lot of other great strains out there that are easier to grow and give you more weed too. I am looking forward to the taste and the high tho; it should be great and hopefully worth the effort. BTW, did you just invent the world's longest word "the pppxblueberryxsativatriploidmale"? LOL

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I have big yielding plants but in comparison to the pppxblueberry they are weak and puny to smoke especially if you have a high tolerance level like i do.

In my next grow i will attempt to grow 50 eighths from one pppx plant in a maximum of 14 weeks in a single tub under the 400 watt hps using my new tub design and fimming to try to get more yield as well as the massively more potent high that you get from growing plants that are very high in thc.

My new pot design may well have been done by someone already before but if they have i haven't heard of it.
I will publish full details of how and why i think it works in my new grow thread in a couple of weeks.

I love the high yielding plants but for me they are smoked like tobacco because i have a naturally high tolerance to thc from smoking for such a long time.
If i want to get tripped out i need small,high thc producing plants and i am hoping that this will be a way to get a lot of yield from a small space on fussy killer strains

very cool NGT...thanks for sharing that history.....i'm fascinated with this aspect of this new hobby (for me). I can seriously see myself getting into the breeding of these plants. thanks again! and good luck...i'll be watching from the sidelines.....

nongreenthumb said:

cheese was the name given to it because of its amazing pungent odor.

it originally was a mutant skunk#1 from a really old batch of sensi seeds before the strain became so stabilized. True cheese is amazing smoke, knockout stuff, it was just a one off and has been passed around in clone form, big buddha released a seed version, but it was a back crossed version and they had to use an afghani for the male, the version i'm just about to try out is greenhouse's version, the outcome of these seeds will determine my faith in greenhouse.

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I have to say that I'm somewhat surprised that these have recovered so well and are putting on new growth like crazy in spite of my ham-fisted growing. It's day 51 since sprouting and 7 days from going 12/12 which means they vegged for 44 days (for my reference). I think I see some preflowers; sure looks like it to me but I'm not 100% sure. Opinions gladly entertained.

Only one pic for today. Two of the plants were boys so I took them out and am going to strip them tonight and throw their sorry asses away. I may cut the rock wool in half and post a pic of what the root system looks like inside the 12" thick cubes; somebody should get something out of that. Here is the pic of my two girls:

Definitely cut the rockwool and show the root structure....im very curious

Does that read 100F...if so, holy crap.