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Congress over ride the ppl choice

schuylaar

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Revel what the lawyers know and you and I don`t, Threat in one hand, the right amount of cash in the other, which do you think they took ?

ACA is for the uninsured...Really ? ..."If you like your health plan, you can keep it, if you like your doctor, you can keep him too" Does that sound like he`s speaking to the uninsured ?

Everyone is the companies that don`t want to pay into it and still have to.


Are you gonna ask me who "they" are now ?
how do you know "they" know something you or i don't?

aca for the uninsured? yeah, i'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about.

have you been drinking or perhaps are rolling right now?
 

UncleBuck

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Retarded is a step up for me guy, or girl, or manwife whateva the fuck you are. Why would you open a site you knew would crash you honest injun ?
according to your profile over on that drumming website, you are 40+ years old.

so why do you come off like a petulant 7th grader?
 

OddBall1st

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why not give some head?

people love getting head.

I`m not that kind of boy.

I also dig the sound of sudden 6" bounce`n off the hull.

If you`re lost understanding me, Might I suggest Nina and Star.

I know who`s who by who understands what, and "wont get fooled again"
 

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
how do you know "they" know something you or i don't?

aca for the uninsured? yeah, i'm pretty sure that's what he's talking about.

have you been drinking or perhaps are rolling right now?
Do you really wanna know how many uninsured people had to change their insurance ??
 

Rob Roy

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I don't disagree with any of that

@Rob Roy do you feel the same way about consumption tax as you do about income tax?
Theft is theft, no matter the method the thief uses.

With that said, of course people should pay for that which they use. People should also have a choice of who they will purchase services from and never be compelled to purchase a so called "service" under threat. A "service" under threat is extortion if you or I do it, and is also extortion if people with fancy hats and titles do it.

I don't favor a central authority taxing anybody. The feudal system is outdated in my opinion.

In a competitive and natural free market, taxes would not exist but the services that people like and would willingly pay for would exist in a wider array of choices and at better prices. Competition creates better value for consumers, and if people aren't compelled to pay a sole monopolistic "service provider" protection money, society would take a great leap forward both technologically and morally.
 

Rob Roy

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This is a very shallow response to a very complex issue. Taxes are required for our country to run successfully, do you agree? Without taxes, we wouldn't be able to fund things like public schools, roads/bridges/etc. (that enable people to move about in society to purchase goods/services to contribute to the economy), police and fire departments, etc. Depriving citizens of public education is just as wrong as "using force to make somebody buy something they ordinarily wouldn't". Letting mobs run wild without facing consequences is also just as wrong.

Your solution only adds more problems that are equally as bad as "using force" to solve them in the first place. This is the point we always reach, you get right up to this line but never go past it. So how do you solve all the problems that society faces without the use of taxes?

Taxes are required to jail people at the highest rate ever and to dominate the world militarily, I'll agree with that. Taxes are not required to enable a peaceful society to function. In fact, WITH coercive taxes, you can NEVER have a peaceful society....it is self evident, as coercion and peace are opposites of a sort.

Public schools are funded thru force aren't they? So you are saying that the result you desire somehow makes it acceptable to threaten force on people if they don't share your desired outcome? How is that good? Isn't it better to let those that want something be free to pursue it and those that don't want something be free NOT to pursue it?

Mobs running wild? Where?

No, my solution promotes peace, yours promotes might makes right.

Without coercive taxes, people would still trade amongst themselves to get the things they need, some would undoubtedly combine resources and provide more efficient transportation systems than presently exist and any number of things that have been prevented from occurring due to the monopolistic and authoritarian models in existence today.
 

Rob Roy

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since you have admitted that you benefit from an educated and literate populace, who should you be paying for that?

It's too bad there isn't an educated populace. Indoctrinated is the proper term to use when "education" is government run at the point of a gun Kaiser Wilhelm.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
but there is.

Serious question. Do you even know the original intentions of the creators of government schools?



Also, for extra credit, how about explaining to me, why you find it acceptable to fund "public education" by placing some people under duress and threatening them with seizure of their homes. Do you like those kinds of tactics to achieve your version of a peaceful society?
 
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