Is a reversal of Roe v Wade decision next?

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Do you think that a newborn should be allowed to be terminated after it is out of the mother and breathing on its own? Where do you draw the line?
Not a question, the law is clear about this and has been for a long time. Near birth abortion is a question for the courts and doctors as special masters to decide, not religious lunatics or con artists using them to gain and hold power.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Some people are so down with women's rights they are willing to kill at the expense of a newborn child. What a world, what a world.
thats a lie...and you expressing feelings and not reason...
no one in the entire pro abortion camp would condone killing a new born baby, and you're a fucking asshole for suggesting they would.
i personally think the threshold should be when they can start to detect thought patterns in the fetus...but my personal feelings are just that...personal feelings. i cannot bear a child, so i try to keep my opinions to myself about it, unless someone like you tries to start making people feel guilty about something that's none of their fucking business...about something they haven't bothered to do any real research on, something they just go with their feelings on...yet it's something that will have profound life changing effects on those people you conveniently have no personal investment in...so it's easy to tell them "i want you to ruin your lives, so that i may feel comfortable with your moral choices, that really have little to no effect on my life."
fucking hypocrites...
 

TankHankerous

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Not a question, the law is clear about this and has been for a long time. Near birth abortion is a question for the courts and doctors as special masters to decide, not religious lunatics or con artists using them to gain and hold power.
I'm interested in what you think the law should be
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Why is everyone getting mad for me calling out their shitty morals? Don't shoot the messenger!
They are pointing out the flaws in your arguments that are caused by flaws in your character. You attacked others "morality" and are now playing the victim card when getting pushed back. More are laughing at you and ridiculing you than are angry at you.

We live in a multicultural global society and we have different moral values than you, non believers are the fastest growing religious group and the larger culture has a pernicious effect on the youth of the brainwashed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I'm interested in what you think the law should be
Not for me to decide, I differ to the experts, doctors who deal in life and death every day and know all about it. They and a woman should be making the calls and doctors do have ethical standards about late term pregnancy along with treatment protocols. The law should reflect this IMHO, I live in Canada and this was settled in the last century here and is a non issue, they get free healthcare too. Here it doesn't cost thousands of dollars to give birth, why don't you complain about that? All insurance companies pay prenatal and have free birthing, no copays, also free insurance for the child.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Its a gray area the whole fetus thing....but from the outside looking in, women and men who champion for abortion are spineless cowards that don;t how to pull out
maybe they're confused hormone filled kids who think they love each other?...maybe they're making a big mistake, but that is how young people learn, by making mistakes. maybe they wouldn't make that mistake if the same political party that doesn't want them to be able to have an abortion wouldn't oppose giving children meaningful sex education in school, instead of insisting that that is the responsibility of their parents, who's idea of sex education is an uncomfortable, confusing talk that their kid is relieved to escape.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You would think, anything to save the life of the child. But the guilty mother would rather the baby be killed than it live on knowing it's mother didn't want to care for it
See guilty mother, there you go being judgmental and prejudiced are you a woman? Or just trying to make decisions for them? If you were sincere and not lying to yourself on some level, you would be helping pregnant women to make your desired life choices about pregnancy by supporting them financially or supporting policies that did, even black women. It is easier to have children when you can support them, but not when you are struggling to survive.

Care about the living children first, then worry about bullshit made up by rightwing politicians and con artist preachers in the 1970's
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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You would think, anything to save the life of the child. But the guilty mother would rather the baby be killed than it live on knowing it's mother didn't want to care for it
boy, the world sure is a simple place for you, isn't it?
you're assuming that every baby put up for adoption gets adopted?

https://apnews.com/article/race-and-ethnicity-census-2020-7264a653037e38df7ba67d3a324fc90d

https://www.lifelongadoptions.com/adoption-statistics

https://adoptioncouncil.org/publications/adoption-advocate-no-116/

so, white babies get adopted more, a lot more. black female babies get adopted less, but still happens...black male babies, one in ten get adopted...so, apparently all of those parents waiting to adopt aren't that concerned with saving the lives of black male babies...just the ones that will look good in family pictures they can share on facebook...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Why is everyone getting mad for me calling out their shitty morals? Don't shoot the messenger!
no, we're getting mad at you for thinking you have the right to judge us, when you embrace the political party of immorality and injustice...the party that does nothing but make judgements based on their feelings and ignoring any facts....hypocrite
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I'm not religious and few people know what pernicious means, dumb it down for these people.
these people are smarter than you give them credit for being...most of them had the sense not to fall for the republican horseshit lies that you've swallowed whole...
sorry, have to ignore you now...i just don't have the time or the inclination to try to convince an idiot that they're an idiot today...or ever again...people have picked their paths by now, and those of you who walk down the republican/conservative/white christian nationalist path have fucked yourselves royally...and i'm not going to waste any effort trying to change your minds, i'm going to be expending all efforts into stopping you from getting a single thing you want, into getting your kind out of power once and for all...
 
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TankHankerous

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these people are smarter than you give them credit for being...most of them had the sense not to fall for the republican horseshit lies that you've swallowed whole...
sorry, have to ignore you now...i just don't have the time or the inclination to try to convince an idiot that they're an idiot today...or ever again...people have picked their paths by now, and those of you who walk down the republican/conservative/white christian nationalist path have fucked yourselves royally...and i'm not going to waste any effort trying to change your minds, i'm going to be expending all efforts into stopping you from getting a single thing you want, into getting your kind out of power once and for all...
I feel sorry for your Mother
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Some people are so down with women's rights they are willing to kill at the expense of a newborn child. What a world, what a world.
Must be like a punch to the gut. After Roe v Wade was overturned you fanatics thought all the red states would fall like dominoes. Well Kansas proved that wrong. Even Republican woman don't want their rights taken away.
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
Some people are so down with women's rights they are willing to kill at the expense of a newborn child. What a world, what a world.
And yes I'm 100% Pro Women's rights. I always have been and always will be. That includes equal job opportunities in the workplace, equal pay, and everything else. Especially their right to control their own bodies.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Nobody loves abortion. But no woman should have the right to her body and what she does with it taken away by a bunch of hypocritical bible thumping assholes. Those closet sinners should worry about saving their own souls instead of pushing their crap on others.
Pushing their crap on others is a source of pleasure, amplified by their agonized and corrupted sexual drives. It is their almightiest rush. Which to even an average intellect should (aptly) raise a red flag as to notional-whom this serves.

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