nute burn, cutting affected leaves

Dboi87 said:

Wanna school one more guy? Would you please explain to Dankfactory that not all lockouts will look the same? Different salts get locked out under different circumstances correct? I'm just tryin to avoid the spread of misinformation

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"Lockout", another term or "advise" used by those who don't know what they're talking about. There is a concept that all gardeners should get to know and understand - nutrient antagonism where too much of one element induces antagonism or "lockout" if you will of one or more. HIgh P foods induce a lockout of micros for instance, especially Fe and Zn. This needs to be printed out and used as a reference:
http://neo.edu/Portals/4/Faculty Staff/Web Pages/Fent, Roger/NUTRIENTS.pdf

Other erroneous pieces of "advice" common to cannabis forums (which become paradigms) is adjusting pH, "you need epsom salts", etc. These are clueless people who write to just be seen.

Dboi87, you understand and articulated it well. If you don't know what your inputs are, then WTF? He's just gonna have to learn the hard way and will drive with his rear view mirror rather than consulting a botanical roadmap (like Mel Franks' book).

UB

ItsJustMe84 said:

Daniel

Yeah i respect that but it dont mean im gonna take shit from him because he knows what hes doing

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And I'm not gonna take any bullshit from a snot nosed kid who didn't acknowledge my questions or advice.

All I can say, is good luck, you''re gonna need it....shit-fer-brains.

Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben said:

"Lockout", another term or "advise" used by those who don't know what they're talking about. There is a concept that all gardeners should get to know and understand - nutrient antagonism where too much of one element induces antagonism or "lockout" if you will of one or more. HIgh P foods induce a lockout of micros for instance, especially Fe and Zn.

Other erroneous pieces of "advise" common to cannabis forums (which become paradigms) is adjusting pH, "you need epsom salts", etc.

Dboi87, you understand and articulated it well. He's just gonna have to learn the hard way and will drive with his rear view mirror rather than consulting a botanical roadmap (Mel Franks' book).

UB

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Yeah im gonna ditch my whole nute plan just cause u said i should even though u havnt got a clue what im using, why should i trust you over my friend whos grown for years? You have no idea how im growing, were im growing yet you expect me to ditch what im doing amd start again, whyy? If my plants are doing good why would i do that? If i do well on this grow, whats gonna be you're excuse then? A few yellow leaves on my bottoms which hasnt spread and has been there for 2 weeks isnt gonna fuck my grow up, nor is using nutrients which have been successfully used by my friend in the past, i find it totally ignorant that you just assume i know absolutly nothing and im doing it all wrong, yet 5 weeks later ive got 15 2 ft plants growing good, yet instead of encouraging me you tell me to get rid of my nutes and start again because im not doing it you're way, you didnt come here to help you came here to insult my intellegence as a new grower, not one other person on this post has done that and they might respect you but i think you're out of order ignorant

Uncle Ben said:

And I'm not gonna take any bullshit from a snot nosed kid who didn't acknowledge my questions or advice.

All I can say, is good luck, you''re gonna need it....shit-fer-brains.

Uncle Ben

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Yes say what you thought the minute you come on here with you're cocky attitude, like i said you need not of bothered wasting you're time, u should of just said what you thought and let your ego grow abit more

ItsJustMe84 said:

I think the flash on the cam makes them look a different color to what they are, when there in daylight they look abit darker.....

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Perfect example....of spinning. A member, ProHuman, correctly commented on page one, second post, a fine point which was spot on - that they needed more N. So what do you do? Deflect the point with some lame excuse about the cam and "mixing the nutes wrong". OK, and just how "wrong" did you mix them? Guess you were doing some Halloween witches brew, eh, expecting some magical outcome?

OK, so we have part of the equation down pat. The other part is you have a severe case of leaf chlorosis most likely induced by a low N, high P food that probably also suck in the trace elements department. Since you don't know what in the hell you're throwing at them much less understand plant nutrition....you will fail.

UB

ItsJustMe84 said:

Yes say what you thought the minute you come on here with you're cocky attitude, like i said you need not of bothered wasting you're time, u should of just said what you thought and let your ego grow abit more

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Others will learn something from my posts.

Shut up.....

What nute plan?

Sorry, but that plant is NOT doing good. It has a N and micros deficiency. They should look like this, with dark green healthy leaves top to bottom.

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Pefect example....of spinning. The member wrote before you on page one a comment which was spot on - that they need more N. So what do you do? Deflect the point with some lame excuse about the cam and "mixing the nutes wrong". OK, and just how "wrong" did you mix them? Guess you were doing some Halloween witches brew, eh, expecting something magical.

OK, so we have part of the equation down pt. The other part is you have a severe case of leaf chlorosis most likely induced by a low N, high P food that probably also suck in the trace elements department. Since you don't know what in the hell you're throwing at them much less understand plant nutrition....you will fail.

UB

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I mixed the nutes the wrong way round, so instead of adding 1ml of root dev i added 10ml, and vice versa, the next day the leafs burnt and turned yellow? At that time the burnt tips were the top of the plant before new nodes grew and saying i have a severe case of whatever is just bullshit, i maybe new but i know wethee my plants lool healthy you dont, amd just to prove ill take a pic without the flash and show you how much darker the leafs are and when i produce good bud of these plants i suppose you'll have an answer for that too, youve seen 1 pic and judged my whole grow

ItsJustMe84 said:

I mixed the nutes the wrong way round, so instead of adding 1ml of root dev i added 10ml,

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What's in "root dev"? Never heard of it.

So you're telling me and everyone on the post that my plant right there on the pic and the rest wont produce me some good bud? And before you moan about the leaves looking droopy they havnt been fed yet

Uncle Ben said:

What's in "root dev"? Never heard of it.

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A veg food that helps with root development from its called fox farm on the label

So i was using vitalink part a part b, veg, and using 2 fox farm root devs which ill use all the way til the end, now ive switched to vitalink bloom part a and b, i get my ph right so tell me what am i doing so wrong with that? Cause others have grown fine with it? Vitalinks a popular veg and flower feed were i live,

You're into cannabis snake oils, vendor part A & B product charts and other sales gimmicks while embracing misguided forum protocol.

Sorry, can't help ya. I'm outta here.

UB

Yeah that made no sense to me, i asked u why my plant wont produce? Seems like you're making out theres something alot more wrong with my plants than there actually is, and that my friend is what you call a cunts trick,

It's not your plants and their current state, it's about your practices. I've been gardening for 40+ years. I don't have to touch a stove's burners to know if they're hot or not. I'm beyond that.

I gave you many reasons, solid advice, an excellent book choice, link to plant nutrition which I know you didn't bother to read....all pearls of wisdom and you still don't get it. I'll not waste my time on someone who is so fuckin' hard headed and clueless. You'll just have to learn the hard way about bloom foods and all the other cannabis specific crap.

This really is stupid.....

UB

Belive m

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And I gave you many reasons, solid advice, an excellent book choice, link to plant nutrition which I know you didn't bother to read....all pearls of wisdom and you still don't get it. I'll not waste my time on someone who is so fuckin' hard headed and clueless. You'll just have to learn the hard way about bloom foods and all the other cannabis specific crap.

This really is stupid.....

UB

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I will no doubt read the link youve sent, and i will in no doubt improve my feeding the next time around, but i havnt done all this work and spent all this money to have u telling me to scrap it,yh it might not be perfect but if im doing what i can with what i know, im growing these not you, and tbh i dont think im doing that bad, nor does anyone else apart from you, you insult my intellegence but you also insult my friends who have cosistantly grown weed for years by telling me our nute plans shit cause its not how you would do it, im all for taking advice, but not getting told what to do by a cocky experienced grower who knows damn well my plants are not that bad but you're never gonna say that though, to tell me my plants have a severe case of something is wrong when u know damn well they dont, i maybe new but i read and watch what i can and i know i absolutly know that my plants are healthy, i know why they have burnt bottom leaves because i caused that u cant sit there and tell me that what i did didnt cause that, im the one whos growing them im the one whos working with them, dont u think i notice when one day there looking lush then the next there all burnt, after i mixed the nutes wrong and you expect me to belive thats from something else, dont expect a person to appreciate advice when you give it with such an attitude, how the fuck would u like it if i told u all you're hard work was a fail

ItsJustMe84 said:

i havnt done all this work and spent all this money to have u telling me to scrap it

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This is the feeling of so many of us.
After spending so much cash on the wrong lights, wrong fans, wrong foods, etc....
.. it is hard to admit its wrong, and junk it.

When I first grew I wasted countless amounts of money for equipment, which led to a waste of time. I tried to flower with shop lights, I used infested, nutritionless soils from outside, I have killed so many plants in my days, but I eventually got it right.
Back in my day, there was no internet, so info was a bit harder to find.

Although I agree UB does come off as a conceded know-it-all, and begins to name-call when people don't take his advise...
... he certainly knows what he is talking about.

We do not have all the details of your operation, just what you have told us, and a few photos. Some strains produce differently, even with the same conditions. It's a learning curve, and we adapt. Keep doing what you're doing, keep an eye out for info, and keep getting better at what you are doing....
.... just keep an open mind for change.

ProHuman said:

Although I agree UB does come off as a conceded know-it-all, and begins to name-call when people don't take his advise...
... he certainly knows what he is talking about.

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Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?

I really don't give a shitter if any one takes my advice. It's not my garden. I do give a shitter when some kid moans and groans about some problem (usually too lazy to use the Search feature or learn what makes a plant tick)....... expects an easy answer and when I ask the right questions trying to get to the bottom of it ignores them and/or takes it personally.

If you have a thin skin, then figure it out on your own......the hard way, which you did.

What a racket - http://www.vitalink.eu/en/_guides/max_schedule.pdf

UB

Am sorry but how are you helping me ? Youve been a dick and told me to ditch my nute plan even though its been working for me, why cant u just accept im new and im gonna learn from my mistakes, the guys on this post give me advice and speak to me with respect you come and tell me im failing with a stupid amount of arrogance then you get mad because i chose not to take the advice, yet you call me a kid? Nah mate i just dont take orders off a guy who knows nothing of my grow, and when i finish this grow ill be sure to drop you a line just to show ya uncle ben aint always right

Go cook some rice