The Tea Party Downgrade

VTXDave said:

Known fact, Obama pays my mortgage and pays for my gasoline in my car...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc

Are you guys really proud of affiliating yourselves with these morons? I mean...if so...it's cool.

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i am in no way affiliated with those morons.

nor do i affiliate with people who think the size of their biceps is relevant in a political debate in any way.

Willyßagseed;6083558 said:

Not a democrat or Obama fan but all I saw was they won't "worry" about paying for gas or mortgage. didn't see the part about him actually paying for them......... lol

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shhhhh...don't blow the talking point for him.

londonfog said:

LOL..that was pretty funny..They guy really likes his porn talk...lol ....I wonder if Ron Paul helped him harvest...known fact Ron will help you come harvest time..

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and he'll bring some pizza and rubbing alcohol and give you a reach-around afterward.

[video=youtube;F1-qL6Pz2SM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1-qL6Pz2SM&NR=1[/video]

Stupidity every where. There is no political line in the sand to stop the bleeding.

UncleBuck said:

nor do i affiliate with people who think the size of their biceps is relevant in a political debate in any way.

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Just with folks who ask in political debates when other members last got laid or to smell their ass....gotcha. Enjoy the company you keep.

Shaping up for another fkn bloodbath on Wall St. There are serious, fundamental issues behind it of course, but it is the TP that lit the match no question. And, I believe that many of them are seeing exactly what they wanted to see. There are people on the right, in elected office, that want this economic chaos to continue right up to the election.

tet1953 said:

There are people on the right, in elected office, that want this economic chaos to continue right up to the election.

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Of course, but I believe that the mindset exists on both sides of the political spectrum. It's precisely why I've stated in another post that this entire charade is nothing more than a well rehearsed, choreographed clusterfuck being played out for our benefit so that we can all fret, worry, argue <insert whatever reaction you'd like> while those in DC and the business world grab more power...and we fight over scraps amongst ourselves.

The more this plays out this way, the more I believe that there's only going to be one possible way to wrest control from these megalomaniacs.

"A Republic...If you can keep it."....No truer words have been spoken in our short history.

I have believed for some time that there will be violence before it's over. I think I first started to think that way when the first protests happened in Wisconsin, back when the state dems left the state and the repubs passed their budget. It didn't get that bad then, but I started to think we were headed that way as a nation. They had it in Greece. They are seeing it in England. It is coming here, I believe.

Willyßagseed;6083530 said:

I am your age, do not pull a tea bagger factoid about lifting and "supplements". I know them.

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You must mean a Progressive factoid, if it were a Tea Party factoid, it would be true. You see it's the liberals that lie their asses off to get to their goals. Scumbag lying liberals... have to lie or the public rejects their agenda EVERY time.

Willyßagseed;6083530 said:

...do not pull a tea bagger factoid about lifting and "supplements". I know them.

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As do I as a Personal Trainer with clientele. I've studied diet, nutrition, and physiology(coursework of course, my major is Computer Science) and my Mother-In-Law is a registered Dietitian that holds a PhD and I work with her as well. May I ask where the "Tea Bagger" comment came from? I disagree with your comment and, without insulting you, I put forth a counterpoint and your response is that? OK...I see where you're coming from...**grin**

My dads a body builder, 55 years old looks like hes 30.. but hes not a crazy white person

VTXDave said:

As do I as a Personal Trainer with clientele. I've studied diet, nutrition, and physiology(coursework of course, my major is Computer Science) and my Mother-In-Law is a registered Dietitian that holds a PhD and I work with her as well. May I ask where the "Tea Bagger" comment came from? I disagree with your comment and, without insulting you, I put forth a counterpoint and your response is that? OK...I see where you're coming from...**grin**

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Your profile says anarchist...pure libertarians and teabaggers are 1 step away from anarchist. Maybe teabagger was a compliment...... lol

I am not a progressive or democrat. I am a personal freedoms Libertarian and a Democratic Socialist when it comes to economics. To those who do not know that is not a communist, or true socialist or Social Democracy. Think more along the lines of Germany, where a corporations board must be made up of at least 50% workers. that way when the shit goes down they can't fire 1/2 the work force while giving the CEO a raise. I can not believe how brainwashed and retarded Americans have become, promoting agendas of the overpaid elite raping the middle class. Yes our government is all screwed up atm but, what many have been brainwashed to believe will do nothing but make it worse. If you believe supply side economics works then please explain to me how average middle class pay and benefits have either stagnated or gone down for the last 30 years whilst the top 2% has gone up at a rate not seen since the gilded age.

I am ex USAF, semi retired truck driver, home paid off and few bills. I have no investment to worry about except 1. I have a 16 year old son, that due to ignorance (brainwashing) of the average citizen and blatant greed of politicians may have an issue in the coming years.

I keep forgetting this is America, where it is legal to lie, money is speech and corporations are people. Where the Supreme Court gets to decide what is and is not "constitutional". If you are a student of the US constitution please oh please let me know where in the Constitution it gives the Supreme court this power.

Keep making your $30k - $80k and voting against your own self interests. After all this is America, please continue to vote for people that take care of corporations and the wealthy( this iincludes what will happen with Ron Paul deregulation), after all you should be there soon making huge bank ... yes?

Willyßagseed;6085044 said:

Your profile says anarchist...pure libertarians and teabaggers are 1 step away from anarchist. Maybe teabagger was a compliment...... lol

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Anarchy is the complete absence of Government. Libertarians believe government is a necessary evil and must exist, albeit in a subdued form. HUGE DIFFERENCE!! One step away? Oh please.

UncleBuck said:

i actually don't smoke much anymore.

but i do find those mirror flex poses the epitome of hilarity.

and i'll get that cord of wood split once i finish my beer, thank you very much. i have plenty of time.

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i'd hire a mexican to do it for me.

MuyLocoNC said:

You must mean a Progressive factoid, if it were a Tea Party factoid, it would be true. You see it's the liberals that lie their asses off to get to their goals. Scumbag lying liberals... have to lie or the public rejects their agenda EVERY time.

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No clue to the Progressive crap, I am not one. The tea bagger comment was in reference not to lying but to making a misinformed comment. As in the comment if coming from a tea bagger might be true using the misinformation they have as fact. There is a difference between making a statement you know is false and making a false statement because it is based on bad fact.

NoDrama said:

Anarchy is the complete absence of Government. Libertarians believe government is a necessary evil and must exist, albeit in a subdued form. HUGE DIFFERENCE!! One step away? Oh please.

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You may want to read up on Libertarians and anarchist at a site other than wiki. Many beliefs of both overlap A LOT. And in fact a Large many Libertarian Groups do lean more towards anarchy than Libertarian doctrine.

Wonder how I know this...... Would it be because I myself was retarded back 20-30 years ago as a dumbass young man? I was involved heavily with more than one Libertarian Group in the 80's and early 90's. that is one reason I am pretty heavy into PERSONAL freedoms, when you add a "civilization" you have to have some regulations in place( and no not just the 5 regs or so Libertarians want) to keep the underinformed and greedy people from f*cking over the other 90%

Willyßagseed;6085101 said:

You may want to read up on Libertarians and anarchist at a site other than wiki. Many beliefs of both overlap A LOT. And in fact a Large many Libertarian Groups do lean more towards anarchy than Libertarian doctrine.

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I don't have to even research anything, i already know I am right.

Willyßagseed;6085085 said:

The tea bagger comment was in reference not to lying but to making a misinformed comment.

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And I will still argue your point. If you choose to insult, so be it, but I believe you are misinformed. I make it my business to stay informed so that I can help my clients. Some are natural, others are not. It's a matter of what their goals are and what they are willing to do to achieve their goals. I have 2 clients on TRT (Testosterone Replacement Therapy) at 200mg of testosterone/week. They're not out to gain mass, but simply keep what they have and assist in other....heh..."areas" (if you get what I'm saying). Anyway, my point being...AAS usage doesn't give a bodybuilder a "Free Pass". They work out every bit as hard as any other athlete. And anabolics are more prevalent in sports as you may think. Cyclists, swimmers use steroids as well. They may not use bulking drugs, but Anavar, Winstrol, Primobolan are quite popular amongst those athletes as well as Clenbuterol (not a steroid, but a cutting drug...but kind of harsh).

NoDrama said:

I don't have to even research anything, i already know I am right.

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As you may or may not know there is a difference between what is written in a book and what that same thing is in real life. Technically if you want to use a book reference you are in fact correct. If you want to get involved with Libertarian groups and see what actually goes on in the real world, you are incorrect.


PS: Again, no insults intended. Part of the conversation. I do not know you but by a few typed words and you do not know me. Can't insult something or somebody you do not know.

Willyßagseed;6085140 said:

As you may or may not know there is a difference between what is written in a book and what that same thing is in real life. Technically if you want to use a book reference you are in fact correct. If you want to get involved with Libertarian groups and see what actually goes on in the real world, you are incorrect.

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I've been a libertarian for over 25 years. Yep, you schooled me, not!