War

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

The internet provided evidence by showing that the Ukrainian led the world in rhodium by producing I want to say 80%. However I think I read it was more like 90%.
The protocol when making a statement like this is to provide links to the information. Without documenting your sources, the kindest thing I can say about the assertion is “not established”, and thus not suitable for discussion.

As far as why Russia would attack Ukraine, you are strangely ignoring the elephant in the room: Russia wants their territory and industrial capacity. Ukraine has a better economy than post-Soviet Russia.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I'm part Slavic(50% Polish),so are Serbs,Czechs,Slovacs,Bulgarians,etc.,while I understand the historical the historical ties w/Ukraine/Russia a little,the Russians have always looked down on them,Stalin even tried to starve them out and the majority of Ukraine wants complete independence from Russia.I grant that in Eastern Ukraine a good amount of people identify w/Russia and also I know Russia ceded Crimea to Ukraine in the Soviet days when it was just a formality. Crimea is a very vexing issue and is key as it controls the Black Sea and without it Russia is screwed in power projection. This whole thing is a nightmare and Putin has staked his political survival on it while he sits on the world's largest inventory of nukes. Negotiation is the only option to resolve this and both sides are doubled down on complete victory. A complete defeat of Russia without nukes being unleashed is a pipe dream IMO,especially w/Putin alive and calling the shots,initial hopes of a coup in light of the abject failure of the initial invasion have sadly been dashed. In our justifiable hopes for a Russian defeat we seem to be overlooking the end game,we certainly can't have Russia conquer and control the whole Ukranian state while also understanding a complete Russian defeat looms ominous. It's going to take a hell of a mediation process to foster a final result agreeable to both sides that ends this while also preventing future hostility,in the absence of Putin being overthrown (the window seems closed),Good luck.
50% Czech here.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Repeat it then, explicitly, because I've been backing up my contentions and you have not.
“how can they be right behind themselves?”

also, I see no evidence of your backing up your contentions of today. What links have I missed? Post number containing links will suffice.
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
I'm part Slavic(50% Polish),so are Serbs,Czechs,Slovacs,Bulgarians,etc.,while I understand the historical the historical ties w/Ukraine/Russia a little,the Russians have always looked down on them,Stalin even tried to starve them out and the majority of Ukraine wants complete independence from Russia.I grant that in Eastern Ukraine a good amount of people identify w/Russia and also I know Russia ceded Crimea to Ukraine in the Soviet days when it was just a formality. Crimea is a very vexing issue and is key as it controls the Black Sea and without it Russia is screwed in power projection. This whole thing is a nightmare and Putin has staked his political survival on it while he sits on the world's largest inventory of nukes. Negotiation is the only option to resolve this and both sides are doubled down on complete victory. A complete defeat of Russia without nukes being unleashed is a pipe dream IMO,especially w/Putin alive and calling the shots,initial hopes of a coup in light of the abject failure of the initial invasion have sadly been dashed. In our justifiable hopes for a Russian defeat we seem to be overlooking the end game,we certainly can't have Russia conquer and control the whole Ukranian state while also understanding a complete Russian defeat looms ominous. It's going to take a hell of a mediation process to foster a final result agreeable to both sides that ends this while also preventing future hostility,in the absence of Putin being overthrown (the window seems closed),Good luck.
What happens when one Sovereign Nation attacks another and we're expected to come to the table with our torturer?

Nyet.

My vote is for Putin's elimination..you take out the offending target not negotiate with it.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
“how can they be right behind themselves?”

also, I see no evidence of your backing up your contentions of today. What links have I missed? Post number containing links will suffice.
You hardly ever post links your self just criticism of others for grammar or other nitpicking. This is a general discussion not a game of wordle, perhaps there is a MENSA forum you would be happier at? This is the war thread, have a look at my posts in the Climate change thread for links to current technology being introduced.

As for the war I was speaking of the target priority order, general officers, officers and whip crackers at the rear as being the most valuable in terms of military effectiveness.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
You hardly ever post links your self just criticism of others for grammar or other nitpicking. This is a general discussion not a game of wordle, perhaps there is a MENSA forum you would be happier at? This is the war thread, have a look at my posts in the Climate change thread for links to current technology being introduced.

As for the war I was speaking of the target priority order, general officers, officers and whip crackers at the rear as being the most valuable in terms of military effectiveness.
the targets I mentioned ARE the whip crackers. You acted as if the target were behind what Inidentified as the target. I called you on it, and you posted a diversionary and irrelevant wall of text pushing your pet analyses, which does not convey respect. So I called you on that, and the emotion in your response suggests you know precisely what I’m on about.

This discussion is not on or in Climate Change; that is you doing a goalpost move.

(add) the bolded is incorrect, as a cursory inspection of my post history will demonstrate.
 
Last edited:

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
well, the good news is you provided (almost) a link; the link in your post is inactive.

The bad news is that it does not support your hypothesis. What is “ significant” activity? How robust is the catalyst? Is the nanoparticle process practical and cheap?

Most importantly, palladium plus rhodium are the metals of choice despite their much higher cost. If you excuse the mixed metaphor, they are the gold standard. (How does the laboratory gold catalyst perform when compared to commercial catalysts?) There are reasons for that that the linked abstract does not touch.
 
Last edited:

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
The internet provided evidence by showing that the Ukrainian led the world in rhodium by producing I want to say 80%. However I think I read it was more like 90%.
https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/45/rhodium

https://newagemetals.com/what-is-rhodium-and-why-is-it-so-valuable/

https://www.livescience.com/36988-rhodium.html

https://gsiexchange.com/learn/where-is-rhodium-found-in-nature/

the internet doesn't vet the shit people put on it, that's up to you....those four fairly reputable sites don't even mention Ukraine, the only location in Europe at all is the far eastern Ural mountains, as far from Ukraine as you can get in russia.
it seems like you're arguing a point from a false premise, and trying to defend that false premise, instead of just admitting you were wrong to begin with.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
https://www.rsc.org/periodic-table/element/45/rhodium

https://newagemetals.com/what-is-rhodium-and-why-is-it-so-valuable/

https://www.livescience.com/36988-rhodium.html

https://gsiexchange.com/learn/where-is-rhodium-found-in-nature/

the internet doesn't vet the shit people put on it, that's up to you....those four fairly reputable sites don't even mention Ukraine, the only location in Europe at all is the far eastern Ural mountains, as far from Ukraine as you can get in russia.
it seems like you're arguing a point from a false premise, and trying to defend that false premise, instead of just admitting you were wrong to begin with.
The recent spike in the price of palladium is impressive. Not so long ago, gold cost 5x palladium.

1675535905061.jpeg
 
Last edited:

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
I hope this information system can compete with the messenger pigeons the Russians will soon be using...

 
Top