What is your faith, path or belief?

CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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it's called species pressure. if you haven't noticed we have left no habitat untouched (ever wonder why?) Our hard wired brains give us the incentive to decimate any competition.

What do you think would happen to that poor bunny once man perceived a threat to his dominance? BANG!!! No more worries.... :lol:

Animals need not exude any inherently advanced mutations to be wiped out...just getting in the way of our plans is enough to spell their doom...


out. :blsmoke:
 
TeaTreeOil

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No offense, puff, but it's those kind of opinions which were responsible for the dark ages.

All the energy that ever was and ever will be is equal to the energy right at this moment, and every moment. Loss and gain are trade-offs(one does not happen without the other). Burn a piece of paper, you get ash, you say that ash is less than the paper was. You're right. But that ash PLUS the energy released from burning it is equal to that original paper. Plants don't grow without nutrients, water, air, and light. The sum of the plant is equal to that which went into creating it.

I personally believe that, like every physical law, evolution a natural occurrence just like planets, moons, and stars, galaxies, gravity, etc.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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If one digs deep enough down to the atomic level...we are not actually one person, but an almagamation of atoms under agreement to be YOU. When your life force has been spent, theirs will not be (the atoms)...but merely "agree" to be something else. So in a sense you are not you.... only in a strictly temporary condition of sentience. The atoms can finally look in the mirror and say...oh WE are wondrous indeed....and then enter a beauty pageant or somethin... :lol:


out. :blsmoke:
 
puffdamagikdragon

puffdamagikdragon

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CrackerJax said:
If one digs deep enough down to the atomic level...we are not actually one person, but an almagamation of atoms under agreement to be YOU. When your life force has been spent, theirs will not be (the atoms)...but merely "agree" to be something else. So in a sense you are not you.... only in a strictly temporary condition of sentience. The atoms can finally look in the mirror and say...oh WE are wondrous indeed....and then enter a beauty pageant or somethin... :lol:


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No, to quote Fight Club we are the all singing, all dancing crap of the universe.

You are starting to sound a little mystical, there, CJ. Careful now. You wouldn't wanna find some MEANING in so much meaningless chaos, now would you.....:blsmoke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnriAm3FoAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvRKB0yLuoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F65k4sfxVN4&feature=related

(sorry 'bout the links, still can't imbed a friggin youtube vid....)
 
TeaTreeOil

TeaTreeOil

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That's all I got to say. We're all one, right? So you should know what that ellipsis means... A clue: it sure isn't agreement.
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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puffdamagikdragon said:
No, to quote Fight Club we are the all singing, all dancing crap of the universe.

You are starting to sound a little mystical, there, CJ. Careful now. You wouldn't wanna find some MEANING in so much meaningless chaos, now would you.....:blsmoke:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnriAm3FoAA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvRKB0yLuoI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F65k4sfxVN4&feature=related

(sorry 'bout the links, still can't imbed a friggin youtube vid....)
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Only the atoms have the means to find the true meaning of life.
I'm fairly convinced, much to my consternation, it's not one of their objectives... :mrgreen:
No, my nihilism is quite intact tyvm :lol: if my atoms spill the real beans, I'll let you know...


out. :blsmoke:
 
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WhatAmIDoing

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puffdamagikdragon said:
While I don't discredit one bit of evolution, or Darwin, there is not one point I disagree on.

I just don't see why, if humans have evolved as 'animals' do, aren't we having bunnies and/or SOME other species doin some cave paintings and shit......

Other animals are just as they were when thier species developed and florished. Other animals create a symbiotic balance with themselves and thier surrounding environment. But not humans. Why? And why aren't other animals developing written language, technology, ect.

It ain't like humans aint' tryin to help them along, but they ain't pickin up on it......

Why have humans developed and not other animals?




The only problem I would have with 'atheism' as it is usually promoted, and with as much dogma and intolerance as any religious zealot, is the idea that there was nothing, and that nothing happened to nothing, and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything, and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs.

Makes perfect sense.:-?
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Hey puff.

While you argue that humans are trying to help other animals understand things the way we do, why are we not trying to understand things the way other animals do?

Is it because we are "better" than them?
 
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WhatAmIDoing

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TeaTreeOil said:
All the energy that ever was and ever will be is equal to the energy right at this moment, and every moment. Loss and gain are trade-offs(one does not happen without the other). Burn a piece of paper, you get ash, you say that ash is less than the paper was. You're right. But that ash PLUS the energy released from burning it is equal to that original paper. Plants don't grow without nutrients, water, air, and light. The sum of the plant is equal to that which went into creating it.

I personally believe that, like every physical law, evolution a natural occurrence just like planets, moons, and stars, galaxies, gravity, etc.
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Energy can be created and destroyed. Each "transition" of energy is a process of creation and destruction. If it cannot be created, then how is it here?

(If you say, it's just one of those mystical aspects of life, that's cool w/me. But then, just don't try to disprove or discredit the belief in god, for that is the same belief.)

I feel that energy can both be created and destroyed; that energy is everything, and all of it is simply evidence of it's constant motion. Motion can also be evident in its absence. Newton called it "inertia".

Transition is the loss of one, and creation of another. Thus, it is both creation and destruction, and the creation and destruction is thereby possibly by the constraints of science's own parameters.
 
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WhatAmIDoing

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dude, i am all sorts of familiar with the scientific aspects of all this stuff. I grew up with my parents teaching me this stuff (my mom being a chemist/biologist and my dad a physicist). That doesn't make what I said untrue.
 
TeaTreeOil

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The second sentence: "A consequence of this law is that energy cannot be created or destroyed."

Yes, that's the opposite of what you said, "I feel that energy can both be created and destroyed; that energy is everything, and all of it is simply evidence of it's constant motion."
 
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We Love 1

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I believe in Jesus Christ/God.

I believe science is the discovery/explanation of Gods ways.

I believe that I'm going to go to heaven after I die and have eternal life with Him!

I believe that everyone is special otherwise they wouldn't be born.

I believe that life is just a test for Our spirits, in the human body.

I believe that We are all connected in some way shape or form.

I believe in Love, peace, unity, justice, rightousness and prosperity.

I believe Jesus/God loves Us all.

I believe and therefor I speak.

~PEACE~

:D
 
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WhatAmIDoing

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TeaTreeOil said:
The second sentence: "A consequence of this law is that energy cannot be created or destroyed."

Yes, that's the opposite of what you said, "I feel that energy can both be created and destroyed; that energy is everything, and all of it is simply evidence of it's constant motion."
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So you decide to believe somebody who told you something. That's fine. They can both be equally true.

The greatest proof (for me) that energy can be created is its existence.
 
hom36rown

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We Love 1 said:
I believe in Jesus Christ/God.

I believe science is the discovery/explanation of Gods ways.

I believe that I'm going to go to heaven after I die and have eternal life with Him!

I believe that everyone is special otherwise they wouldn't be born.

I believe that life is just a test for Our spirits, in the human body.

I believe that We are all connected in some way shape or form.

I believe in Love, peace, unity, justice, rightousness and prosperity.

I believe Jesus/God loves Us all.

I believe and therefor I speak.

~PEACE~

:D
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why jesus, why not mohammed, or vishnu
 
CrackerJax

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It's no coincidence that most religions desire the children to be indoctrinated at a young age. Imagine being sat down by your parents at the age of 15 or so and told these religious stories... :lol: GTFO~!!!!! the kid would say..... ahh get'em while they are young and willing to believe anything...... :clap:


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I do believe energy was ONCE created, that was the big bang. Gods creation.

After that I don't believe energy can be created or destroyed.

But it would seem like energy can be created through nuclear reactions when converting mass into energy. A tiny amount of mass can create an enormous amount of energy. If a glass of water was converted into pure energy by combining it with its anti matter it would probably be able to power the worlds electricity needs for 10 years or so.

You know whats cool, that the Earth is actually growing from absorbing the Suns energy and stardust. So gravity is never constant, its always slightly increasing proportional to the amount of added mass to Earth. But it would seem insignificant over the course of an average humans life.

:D
 
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