Will America fall eventually?

OddBall1st

Well-Known Member
Then you also agree, that because I CAN use mine well, I shouldn't be denied the ability because someone else cannot?

Yup, as with me,..I am however on the side of the fence that wants to see more managable ways to buy large capacity magazines. I am opposed to haveing that managment cost anything to the owner. All I see coming out of the Gov. so far is no ban, but costly licence and application fees and excise tax. That`s not good and may be the real scam behind this whole thing to begin with !i
 

wheels619

Well-Known Member
How come you didn`t include the grouping on the target ? There is considerasble barrel movement on full, remember, 1mm movent for you is much larger splay at distance !i
doesnt matter. at 50 ft i hit a target with more than half a 20 rd mag on full auto and i had never shot it before. a guy with a 100 round drum could take all the time in the world to fix his sights as long as he has his weight into it. a very good portion of your rounds still end up on target. granted not as many as if you were aiming with it on semi auto and its really not all that efficient to just empty mags into objects but sometimes you may have to.

a big magazine can do a lot for someone. especially when you need to keep someone or something at bay until you or someone else can deal with it. but its also a lot of extra weight to carry. if i could i would own an m249 not to shoot regularly or for home defense but to have for defense of my country if need be and regular just good old once a year drive out to the middle of the desert with all your toys and shoot the fuck out of stuff... but cali is way to gun phobic for something like that. but other states are not with the proper tax stamps and shite. some shooting ranges and gun clubs i know in nevada will rent you a fully automatic weapon without supervision for use at their shooting facilities or shooting range if you have been a long enough member. wait i got high and forgot where i was going with this point tbh. to each his own. i guess it was more or less random facts.
 

wheels619

Well-Known Member
i prefer my 22 mag., put it in the deers eye out to 150 yards.
17hmr is more accurate than that. flatter shooting bullet and if your shooting 150 yards it will lay hole on top of hole. its my little varment tack driver. although i would never recomend hunting a dear with such a small caliber round. not enough punch to get the job done the first time if your just a few hairs off. then the dear runs off and suffers for no reason. even shot in the face if you miss a vital part a dear will run off for a while and you would be lucky to find it. it will run off with half its face missing. had a buddy shoot a dear in the face with a .223 and we had to chase it for miles into the woods when we were younger. its best to hit right behind the shoulder with a larger caliber round where most of the vital parts are. even if you miss a vital part you most likely took the shoulder out of commission which means no running and chasing and possible waste of a kill. you just simple come up and finish it the most humane way possible. a .223 or one of its close friends. but no smaller.
 

budlover13

King Tut
17hmr is more accurate than that. flatter shooting bullet and if your shooting 150 yards it will lay hole on top of hole. its my little varment tack driver. although i would never recomend hunting a dear with such a small caliber round. not enough punch to get the job done the first time if your just a few hairs off. then the dear runs off and suffers for no reason. even shot in the face if you miss a vital part a dear will run off for a while and you would be lucky to find it. it will run off with half its face missing. had a buddy shoot a dear in the face with a .223 and we had to chase it for miles into the woods when we were younger. its best to hit right behind the shoulder with a larger caliber round where most of the vital parts are. even if you miss a vital part you most likely took the shoulder out of commission which means no running and chasing and possible waste of a kill. you just simple come up and finish it the most humane way possible. a .223 or one of its close friends. but no smaller.
Bullet technology has improved immensely in the last few years. There are 5.56 rounds very capable of humanely taking a deer out to 250+ yds.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
tha .45acp in the thompson is the third from the left. the other two look like classic revolver or lever action rifle rounds.
The second one stumped me for a bit. I think it's either the .45 "Short Colt" (typically headstamped .45 Colt Gov't) or its sister cartridge the .45 S&W "Schofield".

I would have liked to see the .45 Win Mag and the .454 Casull in the lineup. Jmo. cn
 

budlover13

King Tut
The second one stumped me for a bit. I think it's either the .45 "Short Colt" (typically headstamped .45 Colt Gov't) or its sister cartridge the .45 S&W "Schofield".

I would have liked to see the .45 Win Mag and the .454 Casull in the lineup. Jmo. cn
The Long Colt is a formidable round.
 

Orithil

Well-Known Member
I suddenly feel very ignorant. I know pretty much nothing about guns, I won't let myself have one because I'm a nutjob and it's just not safe IMHO.
 

dark34348

Member
Honestly, I think America will last forever. Maybe in 100 years we will merge with Russian and China to form one supernation. And then all others will follow suite, leaving one nation controlling the whole world. Like having different countries doesn't make sense after a certain point, all countries are starting to converge on a common type of government I think.
 

wheels619

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I suddenly feel very ignorant. I know pretty much nothing about guns, I won't let myself have one because I'm a nutjob and it's just not safe IMHO.
well at least your smart enough to know your a nut ob. most dont realize it and buy guns anyways.
 

Tragic420

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I cant sat if this great nation will fall or not. the things is......if we ever get weak enough. there will be another country that will try to take over. i just we never get weak enough for this to happen.
 

kinetic

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Its been falling for years!!. It just hasnt hit bottom yet! but heading that way fast.
Must be you haven't seen the record stock indexes or seen the jobs being added. Lemme guess, that bad black man in the white house is ruining everything?
 

dirtsurfr

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Who gives a damn the world is getting ready to take a big crap and we're the shit in a bad way!!
Don't worrie kids been happening for along time and the USofA???
Heck we will never fall least the whole world fails. Then wgaf???
 
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