Wonder's Medical Grow: Purple Widow, Wonder Woman, 1000W hps PICS!

should be fine..... don't run two 1000W's on one 15 amp circuit... you would be fine doing it on a 20 amp circuit, but not a 15 amp

Yea, I am just gonna add the 400ws

wonderblunder said:

Thanks Integra! I think this will do it. How were the roots in the last pic? They will be getting no bigger than that. How far is the water from the bottom of the net pots. How many airstones(what type) in that setup?

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wonderblunder said:

Are those plants all Topped and LST'd?

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In the Last Pic here:

The roots were a little too tangled to my liking. If I had gotten them out a week earlier it would have been perfect. It was still workable, but mid sized clumps of roots were lost seperating the plants from eachother.

The actual setup of the tub is quite simple. Here the parts I used to make them. You need a basic rubermaid\sterilite tub. Pick the right size for your space and clone needs. Here's exactly what I used with links.

(1)Sterilite 15quart tub(holds up to 8 plants)
http://www.spacesavers.com/15qtseethrubox.html

(1)General Hydroponics Dual Diaphram Air Pump(runs 1-8 clone tubs)
http://www.growlightexpress.com/pumps-irrigation-41/air-pumps-42/dual-diaphragm-air-pump-270.html

(eight)3.5" Heavy Duty Netpots&Neoprene inserts
http://www.altgarden.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=38
http://www.pchydro.com/grow-systems-parts-supplies-c-14_17/neoprene-insert-3-75-inch-p-1499

(2)Top Fin 5in Air Disc
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752196&utm_source=googleproduct&utm_campaign=5098110&utm_medium=cse&mr:trackingCode=FBE42C64-C881-DE11-B712-001422107090&mr:referralID=NA

(1)25' Air Tubing&Tees
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752199&lmdn=Product+Type
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2752256&lmdn=Product+Type

If you want a tut just ask and I'll make one, but here's the quick version for build and setup.

1.)Take the lid and figure out how you want the pots spaced, the further apart they are the bigger they can get, but the ferwer fit per tub. I went with the max amount for my tub which was 8. Use an adjustable holesaw or utility knife to cut the holes

2.)Paint the outside of the tub and lid black, at least 2 coats. Do an additional white coat to the lid to reflect light. Mask off a line on the front of the tub with 1/2" tape prior to painting for a water level line.

3.)Drill a small hole above the intended water level in the back of the tub for an air line t to be inserted, remeber smaller is better cause you want a snug fit so no silicon is required.

4.)Place 2 air discs in the center of the tub and run&cut air lines to fit. Attach lines to the t and push the remaining tip through the tub then add an additional line to the air pump.

5.)Place lid on and insert pots. Assembly complete!

Now for the setup

For my tub it takes roughly 2 gallons of nutrients to fill to the desired level. Either premix or mix in the tub, either way doesnt matter. You want the tub filled so the nutrients are about half way up the net pots. Now just verify ph and ppm's and your ready to take cuttings. this is by far the easiest way I have done cloning. Here's the step by step
1.)Take cuttings and place into cup of water.
2.)Take cutting and dip in rooting gel(optional). then cut the bottom stem at 45deg angle and then cut down last 1/4-1/2" of the stem lenghtwise and rub gel into the cuts.
3.)Place in neoprene disc and then into net pot. It works best if the cuttings are long enough to have .25-.5 inches of the stem under water. I then spray with Wilt Pruf(optional)

If you have done all of this you can cut clones without using a humidity dome at all. The plants usually droop for 12 hours unless you use Wilt Pruf which they wont droop at all. Initial roots in 7 days. After about 2 weeks I usually remove the neoprene disc and fill the pot with hydrotron. Plants can stay in these small pots all the way through flower with no problems. If you wish to transplant them to dirt, just remove them from the net pot ant the add hydrotron stage and place them into appropriate container and medium. Expect a week adjustment period where the plant gets used to its new medium. If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I tried to make it a real good answer since it took me so long to post. Hope this helps.

Thankyou Integra, I am planning on building something like this hopefully today. I am using rockwool cubes and 1 gph drippers right now, in a trashcan setup that took me a few minutes. Its working..... but need something better

By the Way my caopy is about 6 by 6, under the 1 k. maybe a lil smaller. I am hoping to get a at least one 400w in there today, and widen it up a bit. The way TLD described;.

Ok Today is going to be a good day. The ladies are getting fed, the room will be cleaned, the bugs will be blasted, and another 400w will be put in.

How do I make this garlic spray?

I am going to change out my top soil and then spray, empty the room out and sterilize.
I will use neem as well somewhere through this process.
This is my one day this week to make some headway in there so I want to do it.

Integra, Just reread your post. Excellent details, easy to understand. I am going to do it. Not sure if I have time today, but I have just about everything I need. So I guess I will give it a whirl........

Hey there wonder, Integra dropped some good info up there. Like you said very easy to understand. Good luck with those bugs today! Get that garlic out! haha

Yea I haven't made it yet. I may just use neem for today to get them out of the soil and into the grow room, and then replace all top soil, then sterilize. They aren't really a problem, but gnats have a way of reproducing like flied..... Then the garlic spray will be ready by tomorrow for at least a week of blastings.

Yeah, the build is super easy. The hardest part is cutting the holes. If you already have one or dont mind spending under $20, an adjustable holesaw works wonders. I have one like this and it makes things so easy.
http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&productId=100173974&navFlow=3&keyword=adjustable+hole+saw&langId=-1&searchRedirect=adjustable+hole+saw&storeId=10051&endecaDataBean=com.homedepot.sa.el.wc.catalog.beans.EndecaDataBean@598c5464&ddkey=Search
This one costs $20, but mine only cost around $10. you dont need the best one if you're only drilling plastic.

gnats? use cinnamon

spidermites and a few other bugs, use garlic

How do you apply the cinnamon?

cultivate 1 tspn per gallon of soil evenly in the top 2+ inches of soil..... let your pots dry out extra extra (so they get the super droop) before next watering....

Edit: Oh and go by how many Real gallons of volume the pot holds, not what the label rates it as..... 5 gallon pots usually only hold about 3.5 to 3.9 true gallons

Few more quickies.
I need to feed today, should I add cinnamon before or after?
I have 5 gallon bucket (liquid) for my next pots. I believe that will hold something like 7 gallons of soil, is that somewhat correct.

these buckets..... are they intended for agricultural use? Or was it from laundry detergent or something?

I would add before feeding......

I would still bleach clean the area after application gnats won't hide in your equipment like spider mites or a couple other pests will.....

They are standard 5 gallon buckets, not for agricultural use. I have no clue what was in them if anything , but they look brand new. I have to drill holes in the bottom before planniting

yep..... drill a good few holes too you want good aeration your talking about transplanting the girls in veg right?

Right before they nhit the flower room........

I did it a little work this afternoon in the grow room. I took everything , and I mean everything, nutes, equpment, etc. Cleaned the grow room from ceiling to floor with 409 cleaner. I then did the cinnamon thing reccomended by TLD and then neem oiled the coil. THe room looks great now SO good I had to take some pics.... Everybody looks good. THink my flo may have hermied as there were some seeds in a bud. Not excited, but Not sure what to do..... Kill it or leave it..... Everybody else would fit very nicely under the 1000w without her......it........

they're looking good. Did you make that dwc cloner yet?