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NoDrama · Jul 16, 2013

dababydroman said:
dude that's ridiculous he could run as fast... he was fucking following the kid are you serious?

A chubby out of shape police wannabe who could not run fast enough to even make the preliminary seed for the police academy can out run a 17 year old football player?

What reality do you live in?

NoDrama · Jul 16, 2013

UncleBuck said:
OK, so let's suppose you're right.

when zimm said "then i went towards him", he really meant to say that martin had showed up again (but left that detail out in the interrogation), and so now that he knew where martin was he went towards him.

let's look at that interaction.

so martin comes into the development through the only way in, which is the area behind the houses since the gate is closed and he doesn't have the key or gate remote on him (gate closes at 7, no fob or key found on martin).*

as he's getting to the main road, retreat view circle, zimm happens to be driving by and slows down to take a good long look at martin, never identifying himself (as per the reenactment video).

martin continues on down the sidewalk towards the clubhouse mailbox area to shelter from the rain, zimm pulls up on him while on the phone to dispatch. martin starts walking or walking faster faster now and maybe runs ("shit, he ran" and jeantel's testimony) down toward his house, which is past the T.

zimm gets out and follows him, hangs up with dispatch shortly after and he's near the T, supposedly looking for an address in the back of the houses. martin is off somewhere talking to jeantel on the phone still. we know this by the phone records.

minutes pass. zimm has had more than enough time to get back to his car, and martin has had more than enough time to get home. suppose zimmy is out there with his flashlight looking for martin, and martin comes back to the T area where we all know the final confrontation happened.

he didn't come out of nowhere, zimm had two flashlights.

so martin comes up and asks "why are you following me?", and now zimm knows where he is.

zimm responds "what are you doing here?" and then goes toward martin.

now tell me, who approached who? the kid who ran away then asked a question, or the grown man who followed and followed a kid, and then started walking towards him?*

I can't be wrong. Zimmerman was well aware of TMs whereabouts AFTER THE FACT.

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

NoDrama said:
He already made it home, he decided to go back and attack Zimmerman.

there is no evidence of that.

there is evidence that martin may have gone back, or been chased back by a pursuing zimmerman, but the only other evidence we have about what martin did is that martin asked a question: "why are you following me?"

according to your theory, then is the time that zimmerman "went towards him". as he said in the interrogation that very night.

suppose someone you dont't know has been following you in the dark and approaches you in the dark even though you haven't done anything wrong, do you have you hand on your gun just in case? or do you just trust that this stranger who has been following you in the dark without identifying himself has pure intentions?

aknight3 · Jul 16, 2013

i understand peoples frustration from both point of views. i can see why some might be mad zim was found not guilty. i can also see the other side of 'innocent until proven guilty' and again i feel itsn ot my place to comment on this situation but i think we can all agree on one thing, what happened to that boy/ young man a little over a year ago was a tragedy, instead of arguing and hating so much we need to think about somewhere right now there is a mother lying her head in so much pain because she had to bury her little boy, no parents should have to endure this, and i cannot IMAGINE having to put my own offspring in the ground. i think we should all say a prayer for her (if your religious) and if not, lets just stop being so nasty toward one another and HOPE that maybe she can find some peace in her life. we sit from our cozy cpu chairs pointing fingers at one another. fucking just what they want, divide and conquer, distract from the real problems here. lets have a little serenity and perspective for the woman who is missing her little boy tonight.

whether GZim went to jail or not, it would not feel the empty void in her heart and soul the day she put her son in the ground, nothing can ever fill that back up, no words, no amount of jail time and no amount of 'justice' lets just rember that tonight or tomorrow night when you put your little boy or girl to bed, it could of been any of us.

1Love <3

Dr Kynes · Jul 16, 2013

dababydroman said:
so what do you think mr buck whats your take on the verdict since your obviously the smartest man on RIU ? is it true that he was MMA style whooping his ass?

dababydroman said:
its odd that his nose is broken and theres no other wounds to the face.. and theres a cut or scrape on the back of his head not consistent with your head being banged agains the cement

dababydroman said:
the kid didn't even do shit he was walkin in the fuckin rain.. zimmer got closer enough for himself to get attacked he was lookin for a confrontation. shit doesn't fuckin add up

dababydroman said:
how do you do that? but tend to not get involved with the law.. or politics.. but in my head there is something very funny about this case.. I mean who is Zimmerman to say this kids suspicious and start following him, and get close enough to get attacked anyways.. he wasent seen breaking any laws he was walkin down the street right?

dababydroman said:
a young kid? when you have to be the toughest and most ruthless at times as a young man.. fight or flight is part of all beings he was beign followed eventually there come a point where you stop turn around and say WHAT MOTHER FUCKER? kid was goin to get some skittles for Christ sakes. and another thing is.. kids do not rob houses all alone by them selfs.. professional theifs probably don't either most the time

dababydroman said:
if someones on top of you bashing you head in there going to have control of your arms.. how did he get his gun? if he was getting whooped like that he wouldent be able to get his fuckin gun..

dababydroman said:
I don't see him trying to beat the living daylights out of someone randomly in the dark by yourself.. the girl that was last on the phone with him said he saw some weird dude following him since when is it illegal to walk around at night and why should you have to answer to anybody if you know your not doing anything wrong you would be pist I would.. h ow do you know he was "Caseing" homes? that's ridiculous. kids don't rob houses at night anyways they do it during the way while people are at work..

dababydroman said:
maybe dope feins might, did you watch the whole trial? did you hear the police call? he said he didn't wana give his address out loud or someshit wtf is that? idk dude I don't know everything about the case all I know is that its some bullshit..

dababydroman said:
dude that's ridiculous he could run as fast... he was fucking following the kid are you serious?

dababydroman said:
dude I watched the fuckin trial on youtube I didn't read shit what are you reading

wow thats a shitload of p[osts to say zimmie is a liar and trayvawn was an inncoent child murdered for having skittles.

i heard that line of bullshit far more eloquently from Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton the day after the shooting. you decided a year ago that zimmie was a murderer and no evidence will change your tiny mind.

the grand jury was bypassed so the trial could decide guilt or innocence, but thats just not good enough is it. fuck trials, in the future lets just decide who did what by the number of facebook likes the parties get.

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

NoDrama said:
I can't be wrong. Zimmerman was well aware of TMs whereabouts AFTER THE FACT.

he never said that though.

he didn't say he hung up with dispatch, and then saw martin, and then went towards him.

all he says is that he hung up with dispatch and then went towards him. he knew what direction that kid ran, several minutes passed after he hung up until he found martin, he had flashlights on him. there are reasons to believe he went looking for martin, zimm's own words included.

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

Dr Kynes said:
i'm an idiot, the judge is an idiot, the jury is all idiots, yep.

if only we had consulted you first, we could have saved all the time and expense of a trial and just LYNCHED zimmie in the streets.

i just pointed out a fact that you got wrong.

there is no way that martin puts himself between zimm and his car based on the timeline, physical reality, testimony from zimm himself, etc.

even there were a straight up ambush, it could not have happened in the way you describe.

dababydroman · Jul 16, 2013

man ya'll are both retarted.. I don't know what happened.. but I have valid points. Zimmerman was the one looking for trouble, he brought the fuckin god damn gun and he got out of his truck? I didn't give a fuck a year ago and I don't give a fuck today.. people get shot everyday in my city and lots of murders go unsolved and no one gives a fuck. im not say martin was a innocent child im sure that he was a troubled kid.. when troubled kids get corned and fucked with they beat peoples asses..

NoDrama · Jul 16, 2013

UncleBuck said:
there is no evidence of that.

She went on to say that Martin told her he was going to try to elude the man, and that the teen left the area but that he was still being followed. Jeantel said she told him to run, but Martin replied that he was close to his father's fiance's house.

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

NoDrama said:
The next time you're out on the Freeway, look around at all the people following you. In the elevator? Walking in Wal Mart? Ever seen how many people follow you to the porta potty at a big concert? You should try to beat those people up, after all they MUST be trying to confront you, what other reason do they have to follow you?

what if a stranger follows me in my community in his car in the dark, never identifies himself, gets out of his car to follow me on foot *in the dark, still hasn't identified himself, and then goes toward me when i ask him why he is following me?

i'd be getting ready to kill the creepy motherfucker who was doing that to me out of self preservation. you carry a gun for a replacement penis for that exact same reason, ya never know when a stranger is gonna follow you in the dark for no reason in the place where you live.

NoDrama · Jul 16, 2013

UncleBuck said:
there are reasons to believe he went looking for martin, zimm's own words included.

well duh, nothing wrong with that though, so whats your point?

NoDrama · Jul 16, 2013

UncleBuck said:
what if a stranger follows me in my community in his car in the dark, never identifies himself, gets out of his car to follow me on foot *in the dark, still hasn't identified himself, and then goes toward me when i ask him why he is following me?

i'd be getting ready to kill the creepy motherfucker who was doing that to me out of self preservation. you carry a gun for a replacement penis for that exact same reason, ya never know when a stranger is gonna follow you in the dark for no reason in the place where you live.

In the place where I live? LOL anyone following me in the dark is probably a lost stock animal.

People follow me everyday on the road, in town, at the store. I am not paranoid like you, as long as they aren't trying to physically attack me, I don't attack them.

But hey, you go ahead and start hitting people when you get scared, see where it gets ya.

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

NoDrama said:
She went on to say that Martin told her he was going to try to elude the man, and that the teen left the area but that he was still being followed. Jeantel said she told him to run, but Martin replied that he was close to his father's fiance's house.

kinda sounds like after the call to dispatch was over, then he went towards him, just as he said he did. he knew what direction martin ran to, and he told dispatch to call him for his location rather than meet where he had described himself to be.

so zimm goes towards him, martin keeps running away or walking away back around the houses because just like zimm, he doesn't want the stranger to know where he lives.

eventually they end up where they started and martin asks "why are you following me?" and zimm then goes toward him, as he said...

it's never a good idea to chase strangers in the dark without identifying yourself, you could just face some self defense from people with preservation instincts. if martin had a gun, he was probably fearing for his life and was within his rights to kill zimm at that point.

dababydroman · Jul 16, 2013

I was a troubled kid and now im a troubled young man.. but when I was 17 and if someone was approaching me asking what I was doing in I my own neighborhood I would be upset.. and if the guy was close enough.. you feel threatened wat do you do wait to get hit? no you hit first. and we all know there is black and Hispanic tension everywhere. you see some essay following you on the phone what the hell are you suppost to think? I would think somebodys fucking plotting on me.. no drama you seem like your reading up on the topic right now..

UncleBuck · Jul 16, 2013

NoDrama said:
In the place where I live? LOL anyone following me in the dark is probably a lost stock animal.

People follow me everyday on the road, in town, at the store. I am not paranoid like you, as long as they aren't trying to physically attack me, I don't attack them.

But hey, you go ahead and start hitting people when you get scared, see where it gets ya.

you're trying to compare someone at the grocery store who also wants beer and pizza to what zimm did. there is no comparison, you are drunk right now and make no sense. but then again, you never do even when sober.

if i'm walking home from the grocery store in the dark, and some stranger follows me in his truck, then gets out and follows me on foot even after i run without identifying himself, i am going into self preservation mode. i have every right to defend myself from this creepy person following me. i would even perhaps fear for my life. if i had a gun and the former were true, i should be able to walk, right?

dababydroman · Jul 16, 2013

exactly uncle buck! fuck! in my mind the shit is premeditated murder like zimmerman has just been waiting to use his fuckin gun.. someone fuckin following you you either run or fuckin say what the fucks up what do you want? grown man approachin you in the dark? nodrama are you an idiot?

dababydroman · Jul 16, 2013

its obviouse you like in some country ass place you have no idea what reality is.. god forbid you enter a big city you will get swindled like a mother fucker.

aknight3 · Jul 16, 2013

i understand peoples frustration from both point of views. i can see why some might be mad zim was found not guilty. i can also see the other side of 'innocent until proven guilty' and again i feel itsn ot my place to comment on this situation but i think we can all agree on one thing, what happened to that boy/ young man a little over a year ago was a tragedy, instead of arguing and hating so much we need to think about somewhere right now there is a mother lying her head in so much pain because she had to bury her little boy, no parents should have to endure this, and i cannot IMAGINE having to put my own offspring in the ground. i think we should all say a prayer for her (if your religious) and if not, lets just stop being so nasty toward one another and HOPE that maybe she can find some peace in her life. we sit from our cozy cpu chairs pointing fingers at one another. fucking just what they want, divide and conquer, distract from the real problems here. lets have a little serenity and perspective for the woman who is missing her little boy tonight.

whether GZim went to jail or not, it would not feel the empty void in her heart and soul the day she put her son in the ground, nothing can ever fill that back up, no words, no amount of jail time and no amount of 'justice' lets just rember that tonight or tomorrow night when you put your little boy or girl to bed, it could of been any of us.

1Love <3

sorry if this is a double post, i saw it but now cant find it so am posting again, goodnight everyone, bed time for meeeeee

Dr Kynes · Jul 16, 2013

UncleBuck said:
i just pointed out a fact that you got wrong.

there is no way that martin puts himself between zimm and his car based on the timeline, physical reality, testimony from zimm himself, etc.

even there were a straight up ambush, it could not have happened in the way you describe.

cuz the whole trial had no evidence whatsoever besides the interrogation tape of a concussed zimmerman, and the jury was just all racist idiots, and only YOU can determine what is and is not possible based on your grand powers as the chief racebaiter of a pot website.

or MAYBE you are fucking wrong, and MAYBE the rush to trial was a retarded move by racebaiters like yourself who knew they would get no indictment from a grand jury.

and MAYBE now the racebaiters dont like how the trial they demanded has turned out so now they want federal charges for one more swing at the pinata.

dababydroman · Jul 16, 2013

the whole jury is racist, you sound like the idiot man foreal.. you judged me after one post I made.. what makes you think your right? you haven't even put yourself if both perspectives.. one is obviously wrong zimmermans.. hes a fuckin idiot.

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