Zimmerman sues NBC

Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Bucky, how are you so sure Martin wasn't looking to increase his splendid jewelry collection? Because kids who beat up bus drivers and brag about it on twitter don't do such things? Why are you the only one allowed to ASSUME?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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At this stage after the THOUSANDS of posts about the guy, I hope Zimm does the aul "roof lasoo" job on himself.

Then we'll never "officially" know what happened and all you people will die from the endless "rampant speculation".
 
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Carthoris

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cannabineer said:
Are you certain that the backtrack wasn't part of a search? There's no way to assert that it was in the process of disengaging. If it was part of a deliberate search (something you cannot disprove from the patchy location records) that changes the complexion of your argument imo. cn
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Whether it was a deliberate part of the search or not, why didn't Martin continue home instead of stopping and waiting? We know he stopped and waited just from the amount of time between Zimmerman losing him and the shooting.
 
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Carthoris

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UncleBuck said:
there is absolutely zero proof of this, idiot.
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If he hadn't hid and waited, he would be at home enjoying his tea and skittles and singing choir songs instead of being dead. It is 100% fact and indisputable. Saying something ain't true doesn't make it a lie.
 
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Carthoris

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UncleBuck said:
if clawfoot had bothered to listen to the interrogations, he would know that the "backtracking" to the truck was just another part of zimm's evolving story.

zimm admitted to the interrogator that he went down the T searching for martin.

maybe he should bother to get the facts of the case before opening his stupid, racist mouth.
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He was on the phone with 911 standing at the end of the path past where Martin turned off. We know this for a fact and that the altercation didn't happen without ample time for Martin to walk home or run since he was running. Unless you think this entire 911 call was a conspiracy setup by Zimmerman to kill black 9 year olds, I am unsure what you point is besides proving you are an idiot.
 
RyanTheRhino

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UncleBuck said:
because zimm said he was walking slowly.

also, i don't generally jog and talk on the phone. generally, when i'm on the phone, i usually stop actually. that's just my preference though, your mileage may vary.

zimm probably didn't even realize martin was on the phone, he was using ear buds which were probably not visible under his hoodie and his phone was in his pocket to keep it out of the rain.
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well that's cuz your ass does't have a cordless phone.:eyesmoke:

 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Carthoris said:
Whether it was a deliberate part of the search or not, why didn't Martin continue home instead of stopping and waiting? We know he stopped and waited just from the amount of time between Zimmerman losing him and the shooting.
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first of all, martin lost zimmerman. zimm was pursuing, martin was fleeing. clearly self defense on zimmerman's part. i chase people in self defense all the time.

second of all, martin had every right to stop and talk on the phone with his girlfriend. zimm had no right to stalk and harass martin. the onus would be on zimm to stop and wait for the police, not on martin to go home.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Carthoris said:
If he hadn't hid and waited, he would be at home enjoying his tea and skittles and singing choir songs instead of being dead. It is 100% fact and indisputable. Saying something ain't true doesn't make it a lie.
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you have zero proof that he hid anywhere.

if zimm stopped and waited for the police, as he was instructed to do, martin would still be alive.

the skittles and tea were for his little cousin by the way.

idiot.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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UncleBuck said:
first of all, martin lost zimmerman. zimm was pursuing, martin was fleeing. clearly self defense on zimmerman's part. i chase people in self defense all the time.

second of all, martin had every right to stop and talk on the phone with his girlfriend. zimm had no right to stalk and harass martin. the onus would be on zimm to stop and wait for the police, not on martin to go home.
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There is no onus on either one to do anything except refrain from assault.

Look at Martin and Look at Zimmerman and it is clear who was assaulted in a "marginally life threatening" manner.

When you assault somebody in a "marginally life threatening" manner you either wind up arrested for felony assault (maybe murder) or you wind up in the morgue when your victim decides he has had enough of a beating.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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desert dude said:
There is no onus on either one to do anything except refrain from assault.

Look at Martin and Look at Zimmerman and it is clear who was assaulted in a "marginally life threatening" manner.

When you assault somebody in a "marginally life threatening" manner you either wind up arrested for felony assault (maybe murder) or you wind up in the morgue when your victim decides he has had enough of a beating.
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What we don't know is who started with the physical contact, and how. I for one am undecided. cn
 
desert dude

desert dude

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cannabineer said:
What we don't know is who started with the physical contact, and how. I for one am undecided. cn
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Legally, Under Florida's SYG law, it does not matter who started the fight. But, "who started it" is a somewhat interesting question. There will never be an absolutely certain answer to the question, however, when looking at Zimm vs Martin my money is on Martin starting it just like Zimmerman said he did, by sucker punching Zimm and knocking him to the pavement. It is obvious that Zimmerman never landed a single punch. If he had, there would have been bruising on Martin's unscathed body.
 
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Carthoris

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cannabineer said:
What we don't know is who started with the physical contact, and how. I for one am undecided. cn
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We don't know who started it. Agreed. We do know that Martin wanted a confrontation based on the fact that he didn't continue home and instead either turned around or hid and waited for Zimmerman to return. He was literally a few seconds from his home. If he was afraid wouldn't he have ran home? This doesn't mean he started it, but it definitely makes it even odds and unless Zimmerman admits that this entire thing was a conspiracy to kill a nigger or two he is innocent in the eyes of law.
 
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