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Fogdog

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nitro harley said:
hey, Fogdog. There are a lot of stupid people out there and stupid is what stupid does. All trade schools have a sales pitch for stupid people they know more than likely won't benefit from the outcome. All of them will promise you the moon just to fill the seats. Colleges and Universities are no different. imo
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Wow that's pretty dumb. There is a lot of science behind the kind of tactics used by Trump University. The key is to find people vulnerable to that kind of manipulation and then take them for all they are worth. If they had been following the law, then I'd say its dirty but not fraud. But they not only used every trick in the book to bilk people but the used false pretenses to raise the take rate for those "free seminars".

What you say "stupid is what stupid does" is true. Also, there are a lot of questionable practices that skirt the law but are legal that separate money from stupid or demented people, just ask @ThickStemz . Trump U was not skirting the law, Trump, in the very name of his business broke the law. Trump, in his guidebook taught his sales staff to make false claims about Trump's involvement in writing the curriculum. Which is why he's now being sued for fraud. You can't take money, especially from stupid people, if you use deceptive and illegal practices without committing fraud. Fraudster Trump.
 
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Fogdog said:
Wow that's pretty dumb. There is a lot of science behind the kind of tactics used by Trump University. The key is to find people vulnerable to that kind of manipulation and then take them for all they are worth. If they had been following the law, then I'd say its dirty but not fraud. But they not only used every trick in the book to bilk people but the used false pretenses to raise the take rate for those "free seminars".

What you say "stupid is what stupid does" is true. Also, there are a lot of questionable practices that skirt the law but are legal that separate money from stupid or demented people, just ask @ThickStemz . Trump U was not skirting the law, Trump, in the very name of his business broke the law. Trump, in his guidebook taught his sales staff to make false claims about Trump's involvement in writing the curriculum. Which is why he's now being sued for fraud. You can't take money, especially from stupid people, if you use deceptive and illegal practices without committing fraud. Fraudster Trump.
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To be honest with you Fog Dog, It will end up being a none issue. imo
 
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rkymtnman said:
how funny would it be if end of October he just comes out and says this all just practice for a new reality show of his?
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"Reality Show" is how Trump, Fox and some of the other media outlets have been playing it for the last year. I think the series jumped the shark a few weeks ago when Trump really did win the GOP nomination. It's gotten too real and it's not funny anymore.
 
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nitro harley said:
To be honest with you Fog Dog, It will end up being a none issue. imo
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To be honest with you nitro, it is an issue that won't go away. Trump's lies are many and quite huuuuuge but he can't make shit up in court like he can at one of his cracker red meat rallies.

Trump said "California is not in a drought, OK?". What do you think about that?
 
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Fogdog said:
"Reality Show" is how Trump, Fox and some of the other media outlets have been playing it for the last year. I think the series jumped the shark a few weeks ago when Trump really did win the GOP nomination. It's gotten too real and it's not funny anymore.
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i agree. it's almost scary how close he is to the white house.
 
rkymtnman

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Fogdog said:
To be honest with you nitro, it is an issue that won't go away. Trump's lies are many and quite huuuuuge but he can't make shit up in court like he can at one of his cracker red meat rallies.

Trump said "California is not in a drought, OK?". What do you think about that?
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What's Brexit by the way? LOL
 
SpiderDude

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Obamacare / Hillarycare update -

Blue Cross Blue Shield seeks 60% rate hikes in 2017 ~ Blue Cross has complained about federal health plan costs

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Texas - the state's largest insurer - has asked for rate hikes of nearly 60% for next year in three popular HMO plans. According to filings listed on healthcare.gov, Blue Cross and Blue Shield seeks increases between 57.33 percent and 59.35 percent for two of its Blue Advantage Plus plans. A Blue Advantage Health Maintenance Organization Plan is asking for a 58.6 percent hike.

The company, which is the only carrier to offer health coverage in all of Texas' 254 counties, would not specify Wednesday what would happen if does not get the rate increase it says it needs. "No final decisions have been made regarding our 2017 Texas offerings," spokesman Gustavo Bujanda said in a statement emailed to the Houston Chronicle.

"The rates we have submitted for review and approval are supported by strong actuarial principles, science and data," the statement continued.

The company said in its request that the hike could affect nearly 603,000 Texans buying individual policies through the federal exchange mandated by the Affordable Care Act. It is not known what increases will be requested for employer-sponsored group policies. "The anticipated health risk of the people in any given market is the largest component of determining rate changes," the company statement said. Judging by the soaring premium, the "health risk" is likewise going through the roof: risk which it appears nobody had anticipated five years ago when the ACA tax was passed. BlueCross is not alone: insurers across the nation have complained vigorously that they are losing money in the federal exchanges as some customers have proven more costly to cover than anticipated. Under the health-care law, an insurer can no longer deny coverage to someone based on her or his health status or pre-existing condition.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Blue-Cross-Blue-Shield-seeks-60-rate-hikes-in-7958152.php
 
Fogdog

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rkymtnman said:
but it would be funny if the newly elected Pres in limbo loses in both CA and NY class action suits.
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I think the scenario is Trump loses the election then gets drubbed the CA and NY courts. By the time this is all over, Trump will still be popular with the crackers, like Palin is, but he will be a joke to everybody else, like Palin is. There should be some pretty amusing images of Trump in the grocery store checkout stands where we idly look at the front cover pictures of celebs on National Inquirer. The funniest one I saw was Saddam Hussein in drag, claiming he was a transvestite. The stuff they will do to Trump will be hilarious. And Yuuuuuuge.
 
SpiderDude

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it was a non-starter from day one.

using the same exchange rate regarding currencies is not smart as the economic dislocation because of open borders / germany have crushed many other countries in the union. slovenia lost many factory jobs, took on loads of debt when it entered the union. then places like greece go under rocking system, people getting water boarded as state assets sold off as debt obligations are can-kicked into the 2040's and beyond ....

as rome burns. yet, the dumb vote for bernie as this utopian socialist construct in europe has imploded ..... , maybe someone should ask bernie how socialism has worked out across europe before we import this disaster ~
 
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Fogdog

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SpiderDude said:
Obamacare / Hillarycare update -

Blue Cross Blue Shield seeks 60% rate hikes in 2017 ~ Blue Cross has complained about federal health plan costs

Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Texas - the state's largest insurer - has asked for rate hikes of nearly 60% for next year in three popular HMO plans. According to filings listed on healthcare.gov, Blue Cross and Blue Shield seeks increases between 57.33 percent and 59.35 percent for two of its Blue Advantage Plus plans. A Blue Advantage Health Maintenance Organization Plan is asking for a 58.6 percent hike.

The company, which is the only carrier to offer health coverage in all of Texas' 254 counties, would not specify Wednesday what would happen if does not get the rate increase it says it needs. "No final decisions have been made regarding our 2017 Texas offerings," spokesman Gustavo Bujanda said in a statement emailed to the Houston Chronicle.

"The rates we have submitted for review and approval are supported by strong actuarial principles, science and data," the statement continued.

The company said in its request that the hike could affect nearly 603,000 Texans buying individual policies through the federal exchange mandated by the Affordable Care Act. It is not known what increases will be requested for employer-sponsored group policies. "The anticipated health risk of the people in any given market is the largest component of determining rate changes," the company statement said. Judging by the soaring premium, the "health risk" is likewise going through the roof: risk which it appears nobody had anticipated five years ago when the ACA tax was passed. BlueCross is not alone: insurers across the nation have complained vigorously that they are losing money in the federal exchanges as some customers have proven more costly to cover than anticipated. Under the health-care law, an insurer can no longer deny coverage to someone based on her or his health status or pre-existing condition.

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/texas/article/Blue-Cross-Blue-Shield-seeks-60-rate-hikes-in-7958152.php
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Republican Congress isn't funding the ACA. We'll see what happens this election when congressmen mess with constituent's health care plans.
 
rkymtnman

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SpiderDude said:
it was a non-starter from day one.

using the same exchange rate regarding currencies is not smart as the economic dislocation because of open borders / germany have crushed many other countries in the union.
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so you aren't concerned that Trump had no idea what it was? seems like a future Pres should have a bit more of a clue
 
nitro harley

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Fogdog said:
To be honest with you nitro, it is an issue that won't go away. Trump's lies are many and quite huuuuuge but he can't make shit up in court like he can at one of his cracker red meat rallies.

Trump said "California is not in a drought, OK?". What do you think about that?
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It probably won't go away until the jury has spoken. Its a none issue to me just like the clinton stuff is a none issue to you. When I say that this is the greatest show on earth I wasn't kidding . imo
 
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