The Junk Drawer

DIY-HP-LED

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I have mixed feelings about this. France with 16% nazis got its own thread but ultra right fascists winning in Italy isn’t newsworthy. A few statues in Ital… owwww it’s the Vatican. That’s like destroying nazi shit, burn the place down next time.
Don't feel bad, America has about 40% Nazi's or idiots who support them out of ignorance, brainwashing or stupidity. Destroying art, history and culture is never a good thing and robs future generations of their heritage and history. I'm not talking about Yankee mass produced confederate memorials in the 1920s either, even they are being placed in parks or on private land. Lenin is suffering the same fate as Hitler; his statues are a symbol, as are Stalin's and as will Putin's. Divinely inspired historical art by ancient masters is a treasure for humanity and are world heritage sites.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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I have mixed feelings about this. France with 16% nazis got its own thread but ultra right fascists winning in Italy isn’t newsworthy. A few statues in Ital… owwww it’s the Vatican. That’s like destroying nazi shit, burn the place down next time.
i care little for the artifacts religious significance, i am concerened about their historic significance, though.
what i am more concerned about is how stupid, thoughtless, and rude people are becoming, and how much they object to being called out...you only get to be an anonymous asshole on the internet, not in person, in public...that should still be something that will get you a mashed lip.
 

Sativied

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Sure I got that. Join the list of countries embarrased for its drunk tourists’ behavior abroad. If you think Americans look bad in Italy for destroying historic pieces ask them how they feel about the Dutch or Brits. Don’t mention the fountain…

Maybe Europe going nazi again needs its own thread but then I’ll be the last to encourage this lumping together thing north americans have been weirding me out with. Not a whole lot of elections coming up soon though, no need to send in the troops yet.

This episode of nazis rising in… Europe: Sweden. Sweden!? Yes, Sweden.

Not the most unbiased site on the subject but no opinions in this piece:

Some background:

Sweden suddenly has a higher nazi-to-human ratio than France. The fact that party explicitly had to ban its members from wearing nazi uniforms is no problem for 1 out of 5 voters. The problem of course isn’t whether it’s 20% or 40%, it’s rising.

More in-depth:

For me much of it reads like it’s about NL but 10 even 20 years ago. Immigrants who arrive in EU have to request asylum in the first country they enter. Not really how it works in practice and another treaty says we should spread them more fairly. Countries like Italy and Greece (where the boats arrive) have big problems but relatively, based on population, Sweden got a very high amount over the past decade (same as if US would get millions a year). By now only a 5th or less is from islamic cultures but was much higher thanks to the dictator and war in Syria.

A thousand year after being slaughtered and burned into submission by the still existing Christian regime whose busts used to flaunt and maintain their nihilistic evil influence finds defenders on riu :bigjoint:, Sweden is increasingly secular. Mosques and such relatively large numbers of religious immigrants is counterproductive to that goal. In theory anyway. Life‘s too good for most to go extremist if you grow up in Sweden. Some of the problems are real (cultures clashing, small amount of real extremist, abusing support systems), people have a right to complain about it, it is too easy to dismiss it all with socio-economics, but even when populists tell a truth, their conclusions don’t add up and their realistic policies are usually nonexistent. This move by one of the most left and liberal countries in the world will possibly only delay an improvement of the situation, possibly worsening it first.

Not sure what happened to the muslim problem here in NL… ah yes, their sisters and kids went to school and the dumbest men died of covid (as anti-vax as oldskool christians here, heavily overrepresented on icu). Time flies and old people die. In schools in major cities in NL the majority of kids is no longer white, the majority isn’t muslim either. Who knows, who cares, they sure don’t. Not like it’s entirely no longer a problem here, the clash of cultures, but anti-islam isn’t a winning topic for politicians anymore, and as long as no arab looking people blow up too much shit or fly planes into buildings we’ll be fine. Italy going fascist, sure, after Berlusconi nothing surprises me, but Sweden this islam problem is so 2010, don’t you have energy bills to worry about…
 

schuylaar

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Sure I got that. Join the list of countries embarrased for its drunk tourists’ behavior abroad. If you think Americans look bad in Italy for destroying historic pieces ask them how they feel about the Dutch or Brits. Don’t mention the fountain…

Maybe Europe going nazi again needs its own thread but then I’ll be the last to encourage this lumping together thing north americans have been weirding me out with. Not a whole lot of elections coming up soon though, no need to send in the troops yet.

This episode of nazis rising in… Europe: Sweden. Sweden!? Yes, Sweden.

Not the most unbiased site on the subject but no opinions in this piece:

Some background:

Sweden suddenly has a higher nazi-to-human ratio than France. The fact that party explicitly had to ban its members from wearing nazi uniforms is no problem for 1 out of 5 voters. The problem of course isn’t whether it’s 20% or 40%, it’s rising.

More in-depth:

For me much of it reads like it’s about NL but 10 even 20 years ago. Immigrants who arrive in EU have to request asylum in the first country they enter. Not really how it works in practice and another treaty says we should spread them more fairly. Countries like Italy and Greece (where the boats arrive) have big problems but relatively, based on population, Sweden got a very high amount over the past decade (same as if US would get millions a year). By now only a 5th or less is from islamic cultures but was much higher thanks to the dictator and war in Syria.

A thousand year after being slaughtered and burned into submission by the still existing Christian regime whose busts used to flaunt and maintain their nihilistic evil influence finds defenders on riu :bigjoint:, Sweden is increasingly secular. Mosques and such relatively large numbers of religious immigrants is counterproductive to that goal. In theory anyway. Life‘s too good for most to go extremist if you grow up in Sweden. Some of the problems are real (cultures clashing, small amount of real extremist, abusing support systems), people have a right to complain about it, it is too easy to dismiss it all with socio-economics, but even when populists tell a truth, their conclusions don’t add up and their realistic policies are usually nonexistent. This move by one of the most left and liberal countries in the world will possibly only delay an improvement of the situation, possibly worsening it first.

Not sure what happened to the muslim problem here in NL… ah yes, their sisters and kids went to school and the dumbest men died of covid (as anti-vax as oldskool christians here, heavily overrepresented on icu). Time flies and old people die. In schools in major cities in NL the majority of kids is no longer white, the majority isn’t muslim either. Who knows, who cares, they sure don’t. Not like it’s entirely no longer a problem here, the clash of cultures, but anti-islam isn’t a winning topic for politicians anymore, and as long as no arab looking people blow up too much shit or fly planes into buildings we’ll be fine. Italy going fascist, sure, after Berlusconi nothing surprises me, but Sweden this islam problem is so 2010, don’t you have energy bills to worry about…
We outnumber the fascist by far- vote.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the DOD is going electric....which means all the macho meatheads that want to play soldier are going to have to buy an EV... :lol:
They are looking at where the technology will be in 5 or ten years and will spend money to make it so, they are also early adopters with deep pockets. One advantage I can see is a much-reduced thermal signature, 2/3 of the energy an ICE engine produces from fuel is heat, EVs have motors and inverters that can be cooled and are about 90% efficient anyway. One issue might be recharging in the field, but they have fuel trucks now and battery bank and generator trucks that can also hook into electric grids look like they are in the future. I don't think too many military vehicles will use electric; fuel is much more energy dense than even very good future batteries.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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the DOD is going electric....which means all the macho meatheads that want to play soldier are going to have to buy an EV... :lol:
The US military also uses tens of thousands of cars, vans and pickup trucks, not combat vehicles, but there electric is useful for reconnaissance vehicles operating at night with their low noise and low thermal signatures Humvees, buggies and bikes. In and out missions with half a charge left or go and stay at a bridge with some Javelins or set up ambushes, until their tanks get there.
 
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