"Those Who Oppose Gay Rights Are Vilified"

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
Really? Religious zealot? Okay lets do this in order.

Carne i never claimed you were all being hate mongers. Nor did i ever ever state that i new what it was like to be a homosexual. In the post before last was directed at sso, i did forget to quote him so that may have lead to confusion. My apologies. I was just defending my view from sso, he had for some reason decided to be a bit bunt and a little insulting. Which is okay ive read some of his posts in the past and thats how he rolls its all good. Ive also noticed he seems to be very passionate about his views which is admirable. Further more you assume im a religious zealot, how did you come to this conclusion? If you really think im a zealot for disagreeing with you.You would shit yourself if you met a actual religious zealot they have no room for acceptance or tolerance.

Karrion, i never chose for my stomach to turn at the thought of having sex with another man. Beyond this maybe your right, maybe your born this way maybe you dont choose. It doesnt matter i wont hate you for it. You seem to be trying to change my mind, i do not see that happening. This is a conclusion that i have arrived at of my own free thinking thought process, not what a damn book told me. Hell the bible has been effed with so many time im sure the lets punish gays with death was added in by some doucher.

Really guys if anything you are showing that your more intolerannt than not (not intended to insult just a observation), i have yet to directly or indirectly insult anyone nor do i have a desire to. People seem to be reaching for the pitch forks.

Now guys honestly if ive said anything that leads you to think i hate you please please please point it out so that i may correct my self and apologize.

I disagree with you, i do not hate you nor am i upset that you disagree with me. Were all freethinking adults. :)
Maybe I wasn't referring to you? ;)

You have a right to your opinion and I respect that. You're wrong (in my opinion) but you have the right to be wrong. Believe it or not, as much as I love women, the thought of a man and woman together churns MY stomach. So before you paint me into a picture of your own making maybe you should look into your own heart as to why you thought I was referring to you? Guilty conscience maybe?

And for your information I have met several zealots with absolutely no compassion or empathy. This ended up in me being bashed on three separate occasions. Which is typical for gay men in America. Here you are assuming (once again) that you know more about my experiences than I do. My partner also faced zealots and on one occasion he lost his life. Now I have a grave to visit instead of living a life I dreamed of and was working to make happen. My life was destroyed and I constantly live in fear because if the rhetoric that creates such hate and fear. Rhetoric that is being showcased in this thread.

Until you walk in my shoes for a month or two, don't presume you know what I mean or what I feel.
 

Steve French

Well-Known Member
Maybe I wasn't referring to you? ;)

You have a right to your opinion and I respect that. You're wrong (in my opinion) but you have the right to be wrong. Believe it or not, as much as I love women, the thought of a man and woman together churns MY stomach. So before you paint me into a picture of your own making maybe you should look into your own heart as to why you thought I was referring to you? Guilty conscience maybe?

And for your information I have met several zealots with absolutely no compassion or empathy. This ended up in me being bashed on three separate occasions. Which is typical for gay men in America. Here you are assuming (once again) that you know more about my experiences than I do. My partner also faced zealots and on one occasion he lost his life. Now I have a grave to visit instead of living a life I dreamed of and was working to make happen. My life was destroyed and I constantly live in fear because if the rhetoric that creates such hate and fear. Rhetoric that is being showcased in this thread.

Until you walk in my shoes for a month or two, don't presume you know what I mean or what I feel.
I am a bit suspicious, paranoia from the weed smoking maybe? I'd just like to see some verification. If this story is true, there should be news articles shouldn't there? Could you post a link to one of those?
 

Steve French

Well-Known Member
You can't possibly be serious.
Yeah I am. People will say anything to win an argument, regardless of truth, and shit most of the time on the internet you can't prove or disprove anything anyone says. So here you go, I'm giving you the opportunity. Back your shit up. Or not, your choice.
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
I am a bit suspicious, paranoia from the weed smoking maybe? I'd just like to see some verification. If this story is true, there should be news articles shouldn't there? Could you post a link to one of those?
I don't know how anyone can tolerate stupidity of this magnitude :wall:
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
Yeah I am. People will say anything to win an argument, regardless of truth, and shit most of the time on the internet you can't prove or disprove anything anyone says. So here you go, I'm giving you the opportunity. Back your shit up. Or not, your choice.
I'm not trying to win a god damned argument nor would I use the memory of a loved one for something so asinine. What in the hell is wrong with you?
 

txhazard

Well-Known Member
My apologies for assuming you were refering to me, and im also very sorry for your loss.

Now that my opinion has been stated and yours has been aswell, lets smoke a bowl.

Yay for tolerance and being able to disagree as gentlemen!
 

Steve French

Well-Known Member
I don't know how anyone can tolerate stupidity of this magnitude.

Do you really think the news covers everything? You probably think everyone that dies ends up in the obituaries too.
This wasn't a random incidence, or some nigger getting killed over drugs, but a person killed for being a homosexual. This makes the front page, or the evening newscast, or some random news site on the internet, 95% of the time. If it didn't, shit he could of said so, or said nothing at all, and it would've been left at that. No need to go making personal attacks now.
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
This wasn't a random incidence, or some nigger getting killed over drugs, but a person killed for being a homosexual. This makes the front page, or the evening newscast, or some random news site on the internet, 95% of the time. If it didn't, shit he could of said so, or said nothing at all, and it would've been left at that. No need to go making personal attacks now.
A friend of the family died a few months ago. Would you like a link?
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
This wasn't a random incidence, or some nigger getting killed over drugs, but a person killed for being a homosexual. This makes the front page, or the evening newscast, or some random news site on the internet, 95% of the time. If it didn't, shit he could of said so, or said nothing at all, and it would've been left at that. No need to go making personal attacks now.
Who the fuck are you to decide what I should or shouldn't say? Some "nigger"? That is quite a testament to your mind set. I don't think my credibility should be the one in question here.
 

Steve French

Well-Known Member
A friend of the family died a few months ago. Would you like a link?
That doesn't follow the plotline of several hollywood movies nearly so closely. But I get it, an insensitive question to ask. I'm going to work damn hard in the future making sure my posts are more politically correct and appeal to everyone's sensibilities.
 

Illumination

New Member
Who the fuck are you to decide what I should or shouldn't say? Some "nigger"? That is quite a testament to your mind set. I don't think my credibility should be the one in question here.
That doesn't follow the plotline of several hollywood movies nearly so closely. But I get it, an insensitive question to ask. I'm going to work damn hard in the future making sure my posts are more politically correct and appeal to everyone's sensibilities.

C'mon Carne my friend...look at his avie....that explains EVERYTHING
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
That doesn't follow the plotline of several hollywood movies nearly so closely. But I get it, an insensitive question to ask. I'm going to work damn hard in the future making sure my posts are more politically correct and appeal to everyone's sensibilities.
There ya go! Now you're gettin' it!
 

Steve French

Well-Known Member
Who the fuck are you to decide what I should or shouldn't say? Some "nigger"? That is quite a testament to your mind set. I don't think my credibility should be the one in question here.
I only used the word nigger here to illustrate how most "whiteys" wouldn't give a fuck about some nigger getting shot in the ghetto, and how it wouldn't make the front page because in their eyes thats how niggers are and it happens all the time. If I were really such a bigot, don't you think I would've said "faggot" instead of homosexual?
 

Illumination

New Member
I only used the word nigger here to illustrate how most "whiteys" wouldn't give a fuck about some nigger getting shot in the ghetto, and how it wouldn't make the front page because in their eyes thats how niggers are and it happens all the time. If I were really such a bigot, don't you think I would've said "faggot" instead of homosexual?
Your Bigotry is evident in your avatar choice
 
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