The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2

[Windsblow]

again, private property can be open to the public or private.

if it is open to the public, you serve all the public.

if you are private, you get to pick and choose.

freedom does not mean freedom to harm others with your bigotry.

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YOu JUst making shit up..... Who defines harm... How do you harm someone by not going into some sort of contract with them? How do you harm someone by not interacting with them? This ridiculous and nonsensical. What a typical liberal.

 

[UncleBuck]

The pamphlet you keep posting is a result of trying to integrate blacks and whites against their will.

After passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, through national efforts led by the African-American Civil Rights Movement, Green ceased publication in 1964.

 

[londonfog]

Are you kidding? YOU not to good with abstract concepts are you? I just can't believe your serious with these replies?

Nope just showing you that your birth does not mean that you have the right to do all you choose..on being to hurt people whether its mental or physical... we have laws to stop people from doing just that....sorry if you can't follow along and comprehend the message..

 

[londonfog]

If you catch them doing it, yes.

No you do not...thats what we have laws for...now you can do it, but its not your right...

 

[Windsblow]

really?



when i have children, i will raise them to respect others regardless of race, gender, sexual preference, religion, and the like.

i would hate to see what happens to your kids.

They understand the basic principles of freedom and I don't really care what worry about. Your stupid little respect list you have there makes you look silly and childish and out of touch with reality. Don't feel bad though, there's others like you that worship the God Statism and the unattainable fantasy of egalitarianism.

 

[UncleBuck]

How do you harm someone by not interacting with them?

why don't you go check out the harmful effects wrought by pre-civil rights america? i guarantee you that examples of the harm by "not interacting with" (or more accurately, refusing to serve) certain segments of the population based on the color of their skin (or other factors) abound.

in fact...

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[Windsblow]

No you do not...thats what we have laws for...now you can do it, but its not your right...

So you don't have the right to self defense of family and property? Dude you are seriously wack!

Are you an American?

 

[malignant]

everyone needs to stage a sit in, dont leave your house until reform takes place. no one works, the country shuts down

 

[UncleBuck]

They understand the basic principles of freedom and I don't really care what worry about.

i hope they can put a sentence together better than you can. as long as they pass second grade, that is likely.

Your stupid little respect list you have there makes you look silly and childish and out of touch with reality.

so, having respect for others is stupid, silly, childish, and out of touch with reality?

you are not doing your bigot image any favors here.

Don't feel bad though, there's others like you that worship the God Statism and the unattainable fantasy of egalitarianism.

i do not worship your silly ayn rand concepts (are you still in that insufferable 'just read ayn rand phase?) and while i realize that true egalitarianism is unattainable, that does not stop me from striving to form a more perfect union.

and that is as american as apple pie.

 

[UncleBuck]

So you don't have the right to self defense of family and property? Dude you are seriously wack!

Are you an American?

in regards to this side argument, if you catch the perp on your property, you have every right to end their life.

i think londonfog may be thinking of taking the law into your own hands after the crime is over.

i agree with the right to self defense but not with taking justice into your own hands.

 

[londonfog]

So you don't have the right to self defense of family and property? Dude you are seriously wack!

Are you an American?

We not talking about self defense ...we talking about someone killing a family member on Tuesday and you go take it upon yourself Friday to kill him....

 

[londonfog]

in regards to this side argument, if you catch the perp on your property, you have every right to end their life.

i think londonfog may be thinking of taking the law into your own hands after the crime is over.

i agree with the right to self defense but not with taking justice into your own hands.

thank you maybe I didn't make myself clear earlier was trying to grill and had to rush at times...sorry

 

[Windsblow]

why don't you go check out the harmful effects wrought by pre-civil rights america? i guarantee you that examples of the harm by "not interacting with" (or more accurately, refusing to serve) certain segments of the population based on the color of their skin (or other factors) abound.

in fact...

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Your logic is flawed.... You are comparing two totally different concepts and are thoroughly confused. YOur a waste of time and a sad sad story. I feel bad for folks like you. YOur a lost cause and don't really want to learn or grow or be honest about anything. YOU just want to be a drone of collectivist society and it is apparent you like your little dreamed up reality.

 

[Windsblow]

We not talking about self defense ...we talking about someone killing a family member on Tuesday and you go take it upon yourself Friday to kill him....

What does that have to do with the price of beans????? WTF. Why did you even ask this question?

 

[UncleBuck]

thank you maybe I didn't make myself clear earlier was trying to grill and had to rush at times...sorry

yeah, it seemed like you two were on different pages.

i bet you both agree on this one in the end. catch him on your property in the act, he is a dead man. go all vigilante three days later, not exactly right (although possibly satisfying).

i've got to go do the dishes. the life of a house hubby.

 

[UncleBuck]

Your logic is flawed.... You are comparing two totally different concepts and are thoroughly confused. YOur a waste of time and a sad sad story. I feel bad for folks like you. YOur a lost cause and don't really want to learn or grow or be honest about anything. YOU just want to be a drone of collectivist society and it is apparent you like your little dreamed up reality.

Your logic is flawed.... You are comparing two totally different concepts and are thoroughly confused. YOur a waste of time and a sad sad story. I feel bad for folks like you. YOur a lost cause and don't really want to learn or grow or be honest about anything. YOU just want to be a drone of ayn rand and it is apparent you like your little dreamed up reality.

 

[Windsblow]

i hope they can put a sentence together better than you can. as long as they pass second grade, that is likely.



so, having respect for others is stupid, silly, childish, and out of touch with reality?

you are not doing your bigot image any favors here.



i do not worship your silly ayn rand concepts (are you still in that insufferable 'just read ayn rand phase?) and while i realize that true egalitarianism is unattainable, that does not stop me from striving to form a more perfect union.

and that is as american as apple pie.

Always with the stupid Ayn Rand comments.. It's apparent you don't read much in the way of history or philosophy if you think collectivist and Statist are Ayn Rand like. She didn't coined those terms and many many other Philosophers and economist used these same terms well before Rand. Your attempt to insult me and Rand (which I find flattering) just shows how unread you really are.
YOur not really worth my time anymore..... you just make shit up and you can't back up anything you say.
I was asked awhile ago to lay off you because you are known to have your head so far up the MODS (or someone FDD?) asses you can get threads shut down pretty easy, and you seem to enjoy it. No doubt, yOUr a trouble maker and are well beneath me and most of the folks on here trying to get out the founding principles of Freedom and I recommend others to pay you no mind. YOu have nothing ever to say of any value.

 

[londonfog]

What does that have to do with the price of beans????? WTF. Why did you even ask this question?

Was just trying to see how you viewed your rights vs the law...You make it seem like you are born with the right to do what ever you want...seeing how you could be justified in killing someone who kill your family member, but would it be your right...No because we have laws that supersedes what you may feel is your right...You don't have the right to ever harm anyone physical or mental ( self defense excluded)..being a bigot can hurt people...In some countries you would have the right to kill that sorry son of a bitch....In this Country you do not...Why...Your government has laws that says you will not...and sorry for asking a question then leaving for a few...had some food on the grill that needed some attention for an hour..

 

[UncleBuck]

Always with the stupid Ayn Rand comments.. It's apparent you don't read much in the way of history or philosophy if you think collectivist and Statist are Ayn Rand like. She didn't coined those terms and many. many other Philosophers and economist use these same terms. You attempt to insult me by belittling me and Rand ( which I find flattering) just shows how un read you really are.
YOu not really worth my time anymore..... you just make shit up and you can't back up anything you say.
I was asked awhile ago to lay off you because you are know to have your head so far up the MODS asses you can get thread shut down pretty easy, and you seem to enjoy it. No doubt. YOUr a trouble maker and are well beneath me and most of the folks on here trying to get out the founding principles of Freedom and recommend other to pay you no mind. YOu have nothing ever to say of any value.

funny, i have very little contact with the mods in any capacity.

besides to report spammers, and of course you when you go on a vile, hate-filled tirade of insults while making no arguments or rebuttals. that is what you would call "flaming" and is against the rules here or most any other website around.

i surely hope you leave me alone from here on out, as it is obvious to anyone reading this thread that you are utterly incapable of responding to my assertion that 'freedom does not mean freedom to harm others with your bigotry' with anything other than venom and hissy fits.

and also, from here on out, i will once again resume reporting any of your hate-filled, abusive tirades. i have been making efforts to stop insulting you, even when you do not reciprocate. i can only ask you do the same and stick to actual arguments, not insults.

 

[Windsblow]

Was just trying to see how you viewed your rights vs the law...You make it seem like you are born with the right to do what ever you want...seeing how you could be justified in killing someone who kill your family member, but would it be your right...No because we have laws that supersedes what you may feel is your right...You don't have the right to ever harm anyone physical or mental ( self defense excluded)..being a bigot can hurt people...In some countries you would have the right to kill that sorry son of a bitch....In this Country you do not...Why...Your government has laws that says you will not...and sorry for asking a question then leaving for a few...had some food on the grill that needed some attention for an hour..

The basic definition of individualism is the freedom to do as you please and at the same time recognizing that everyone else has those same freedoms. Your actions can not violate others freedoms.

I don't know of any example that I can conger up that could make being a bigot dangerous, harmful or violating others rights.
Can you give me an example?