How to Combat Sunni Jihad

Ahahaha the best you could do is a fatwa from Saudi Arabia. Well Muslims follow the Qu'ran not some random individual from Saudi Arabia. But even if I were to take that seriously it was Britain and the US who funded, supported and continue to protect these people. They are nothing but a bunch of puppets exactly like the Shah of Iran and many others. Bring me some quotes from the Qu'ran since that is what I follow, Dr Kynes said the Qu'ran is filled with this stuff so it shouldn't be hard.

So, now. You tempted me. Good job.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, (TO NOT WORSHIP ALLAH) let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."


Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

(THAT, ABOVE, IS WANT HAPPENS IF YOU RENOUNCE THE JIHAD)

Quran (4:95) -"Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home).

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"


Only the Jihadi tries to tell us this stuff is not in there. But, it is the legal findings in Sharia, that are based on these and many more verses....over 100 at least. This is the Sunni Tradition of violence if we don't accept the stupidity.

So, this stuff is not religion. It is conquest, as you well know.

You are not fooling me.

smok3y1 said:

Ahahaha the best you could do is a fatwa from Saudi Arabia. Well Muslims follow the Qu'ran not some random individual from Saudi Arabia. But even if I were to take that seriously it was Britain and the US who funded, supported and continue to protect these people. They are nothing but a bunch of puppets exactly like the Shah of Iran and many others. Bring me some quotes from the Qu'ran since that is what I follow, Dr Kynes said the Qu'ran is filled with this stuff so it shouldn't be hard.

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It is all we are talking about, stupid. That is all I am saying. But, you lie, jihadi when you pretend this stuff is not in there.

napalm the middle east...... I just love the smell of napalm in the mornings. lol. or we can just sit back and let them kill each other.

have several family members that have served going back to Kuwait incuding myself personally! Here's the brief synapsis WE ALL HAVE of the middle east, complete shithole that should be turned into a glass factory!

Lets see the first quote is just wrong on so many levels. Doesn't this sound much more correct.
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YUSUFALI: And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

I highlighted everything in bold where it talks about acting in self-defense and fighting against oppression which is a legitimate right.


Now verse 2:216 why not continue on to verse 2:217

YUSUFALI: They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say: "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter.

There it says that fighting is a grave offence however if you are prevented religious freedom and are oppressed you have a right to fight. Again nothing wrong with that.


3:56 its talking about GOD's punishment which has the same things in the bible so nothing wrong with that again. Heck it even talks about God not loving those who do wrong.
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YUSUFALI: "As to those who believe and work righteousness, Allah will pay them (in full) their reward; but Allah loveth not those who do wrong."

Now for 3:151 its talking about when they were at war. Hence the following verse its talking about when the Muslims let their guard go resulting in their defeat.

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PICKTHAL: Allah verily made good His promise unto you when ye routed them by His leave, until (the moment) when your courage failed you, and ye disagreed about the order and ye disobeyed, after He had shown you that for which ye long. Some of you desired the world, and some of you desired the Hereafter. Therefore He made you flee from them, that He might try you. Yet now He hath forgiven you. Allah is a Lord of Kindness to believers.

Is the whole point when in combat not to 'cast terror' in to the hearts of your enemy.


Verse 4:89 why ignore the following verse.

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YUSUFALI: Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. If Allah had pleased, He could have given them power over you, and they would have fought you: Therefore if they withdraw from you but fight you not, and (instead) send you (Guarantees of) peace, then Allah Hath opened no way for you (to war against them).

Now if you bothered to read in full context its talking about people waging war against you if they stop fighting then you have to stop as well.


For verse 4:95 its only common sense that there is no equal to a person who goes out and fights Jihad using the definition I provided compared to someone who stays at home.

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

Its talking about people who fight against you. So of course fighting in self-defense is perfectly acceptable.


Now for the last verse why did you miss the start where it says its talking to the Angels.
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YUSUFALI: Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."




The only fool here is you. The best you could do is cut and paste quotes from websites when you've never even read the Qu'ran. Keep throwing some more quotes cause you're only going to look more and more like a fool!

Nice fail. It is not self defense when you chase and kill the retreating enemy.

I figured you would try gloss this. Moderate Jihad.

I already know. But, you will not reject it. If you do, you are a lazy, stay at home, that won't have the full reward. So, you support it in your heart. I can tell.

If you didn't you would be shouting that you don't. You want us to believe a Conquest Doctrine to force these made up "teachings of Allah" on the world, is religion. And I say, Christianity is no religion for the same reason. But, now it is morphing, a little.

But, the forceful Crusade was over long ago. And Christianity lost to Suleiman. Now Christianity will say, hey, we accept other religions, Ours is just the best. Worship as you please. That is not allowed in Sunni. You worship as they say.

These are two war cults, that have clashed since the middle ages. And like the teaching of Buddha and all else, it is fractured, into main cults. And the more I look at it the Sh'ia cult is much more civilized and always has been.

But, now we have a so called Billion Muslims, but only 10-15% are not Sunni. Sh'ia are not Conquistadors.

Sunni Islam has six articles of faith known as the six pillars of iman that all Sunni Muslims are united upon in belief, along with the 105 key points of creed mentioned in "Aṭ-Ṭaḥāwī's Islamic Theology".[SUP][12][/SUP]

• Reality of one God Allah(see Tawhid)
• Existence of angels of Allah
• Authority of the books of Allah
• Following the prophets of Allah
• Preparation for and belief in the Day of Judgment
• Supremacy of Allah’s will, i.e. belief in predestination good or bad is from Allah alone

So, there is only one religion on this planet that will claim they are the only religion allowed. And they are willing to put all to sword that don't agree. They have and they do, all over the world.

It is the only so-called religion that puts out death sentences, for any Faithful to carry out.

So, you call it a religion and maybe it is trying to morph to one and maybe Sh'ia has. But, Sunni is still a very strict and focused war cult to spread the totalitarianism of Cleric rule.

We didn't pick the fight. We decided to fight back.

"We will spend millions on defense, but we will not pay another cent in Tribute." Thomas Jefferson

And we will hang Assad based on this. I for one do not believe in Fatalism, or Ordination, or some God that takes sides in the affairs of men. This seem blasphemous to you? Fine.

But, I won't punished for it. That is the difference. And morph your religion and twist your quotes. I am not fighting it.

We fight the ZD

And do you really think your silly childish taunting means anything when we are talking about killing?

I will look like a fool in your minds eye. That's the point, jihadi.

Doer said:

And do you really think your silly childish taunting means anything when we are talking about killing?

I will look like a fool in your minds eye. That's the point, jihadi.

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Ahahaha clearly you are the one that failed. You thought you knew Islam by posting them quotes but now you realize that you know nothing! But you still have too much of an ego to admit that you are wrong!
Go ahead post some more quotes. I need EVIDENCE of what you saying not meaningless bullshit like the quotes you posted before.

Dumb all over...
A little ugly on the side...

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Uncle Frank does a good job of summing it up. Lengthy quotes not required.

smok3y1 said:

Ahahaha clearly you are the one that failed. You thought you knew Islam by posting them quotes but now you realize that you know nothing! But you still have too much of an ego to admit that you are wrong!
Go ahead post some more quotes. I need EVIDENCE of what you saying not meaningless bullshit like the quotes you posted before.

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Why play the evidence? Just a game to you. You think I am trying to convince you?

No. I am talking to my brothers here, as we are about to enter the fray against the Sunni Conquest, yet again.

You are the lost cause, the identified enemy of world peace. You won't renounce the forcing of your "religion." And what your "needs are" makes me laugh. HA HA.

إرادة الله, right?

Doer said:

Why play the evidence? Just a game to you. You think I am trying to convince you?

No. I am talking to my brothers here, as we are about to enter the fray against the Sunni Conquest, yet again.

You are the lost cause, the identified enemy of world peace. You won't renounce the forcing of your "religion." And what your "needs are" makes me laugh. HA HA.

إرادة الله, right?

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Why play evidence? ahahahahha you are so pathetic, I seriously didn't think you would be this dumb! How can you convince these guys if you have no evidence. I mean by your standards I can come up with the exact same theory but replace Sunni with US at least I have evidence something you have not even a shred of!

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Why play evidence? ahahahahha you are so pathetic, I seriously didn't think you would be this dumb! How can you convince these guys if you have no evidence. I mean by your standards I can come up with the exact same theory but replace Sunni with US at least I have evidence something you have not even a shred of!

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This is your problem. These guys know I am only taking notes and bringing notes for all to see. I am not arguing, convincing, selling or even passionate. I am quite dis-passionate about Jefferson's War at this point.

I know you hide all this deep in the Mosques of the world along with the oil stipends. It has been infiltrated and revealed. And it would be treason, of course, to show too much.

So, small horse, this isn't about your ideas one way or another and is not a debate. We are going to war and we will continue to peel this war cult usurper, off of the Religion of Peace that is Islam. No secret about that.

Hey, I got it. Get spitting mad and claim I blashpheme. doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit

Doer said:

This is your problem. These guys know I am only taking notes and bringing notes for all to see. I am not arguing, convincing, selling or even passionate. I am quite dis-passionate about Jefferson's War at this point.

I know you hide all this deep in the Mosques of the world along with the oil stipends. It has been infiltrated and revealed. And it would be treason, of course, to show too much.

So, small horse, this isn't about your ideas one way or another and is not a debate. We are going to war and we will continue to peel this war cult usurper, off of the Religion of Peace that is Islam. No secret about that.

Hey, I got it. Get spitting mad and claim I blashpheme. doitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoitdoit

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Hahaha I am not even the slightest bit mad. So do you seriously believe that there is a conspiracy between 1 Billion people. And you're not even passionate about it? Clearly you aren't since you know nothing of the subject!

No, I said surely under 1 million at this point.

But, the many such as yourself will support the few if told. إرادة الله

I don't believe in the Will of God. I certainly object to some self serving Cleric pretending he knows the will of Allah.

And if your Cleric one day told you this is the fate of Allah, surely His will. All other Sunni are called to Jihad, and you will be a good Muslim and seek out and kill the infidel. If not then you are guilty of renouncing the Prophet. Now what?

Will you say that you would not seek to stamp out my blasphemous thinking? Will you call me infidel?

Doer said:

No, I said surely under 1 million at this point.

But, the many such as yourself will support the few if told. إرادة الله

I don't believe in the Will of God. I certainly object to some self serving Cleric pretending he knows the will of Allah.

And if your Cleric one day told you this is the fate of Allah, surely His will. All other Sunni are called to Jihad, and you will be a good Muslim and seek out and kill the infidel. If not then you are guilty of renouncing the Prophet. Now what?

Will you say that you would not seek to stamp out my blasphemous thinking? Will you call me infidel?

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So 1 million versus 5+ billion and you are scared of that?

Do we seem scared to you? This is un-placated determination over 250 years. How stupid is that math?

It is soon to be our robots hunting down the these bad actors and their Clerics.

If you insist on being the enemy and insist that your religion is the only one allowed on earth. And we can't opt out, but must worship, then so be it. You have never denied that. You can say the best religion bar none and I will die to defend your right to say that.

But this is over only when the Sunni stop insisting they will force this on the world. Not mission it, force it with violence. So, the Sunni says, welll.....how can it be force if Allah Wills it?

Don't make a lick of sense, to me. And yet why you defend it and won't admit it is obvious.

It is old, not Syria new, and even Syria has been on our plate for a long time.

1 million united against 5 billion fragmented can do alot of damage. But 1 million won't unite.

Just like Christianity there are those that just wear the label on their sleeve to fit in with their crowd.

What ever man you chat shit. You can't back anything up with any evidence what so ever

Flaming Pie said:

1 million united against 5 billion fragmented can do alot of damage. But 1 million won't unite.

Just like Christianity there are those that just wear the label on their sleeve to fit in with their crowd.

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No main tenant of Christianity that other religions CANNOT exist. And a shirt muslim that doesn't pray 5 times, doesn't attend to his Cleric, etc, is no Muslim in this discussion.

And I do see your point, and that is why I see billion people that have not been called to Jihad...yet, in the actuality of the Jihad. But, you won't even see a single Sunni that can denounce the Jihad Tradition. Ask them.

Oh yeah, they will lie and tap dance, call names, say we look foolish, with our Science. Say none of that is in there, we have never read the Holy Book. They will say Jihad can be inner struggle, but they won't admit it really means insurgency....from within, for conquest of a nation. (Hint for westerners. You start at the back of the Book. Right to left written language.)