doublejj
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that's why everyone needs to wear a mask....
Lockdowns don't work.
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PJ Diaz
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The lock down has been wonderful for our planet, and I've been appreciating the time at home with my family.
www.theguardian.com
'It's positively alpine!': Disbelief in big cities as air pollution falls
Delhi is one of many capitals enjoying improved air quality since restrictions were introduced due to the coronavirus
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rkymtnman
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doublejj
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I understand that "Electric cars" are one of the most searched things on the internet during the lockdown....The lock down has been wonderful for our planet, and I've been appreciating the time at home with my family.
'It's positively alpine!': Disbelief in big cities as air pollution falls
Delhi is one of many capitals enjoying improved air quality since restrictions were introduced due to the coronavirus
Kassiopeija
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when Rob is on your side you know your in big trouble....
doublejj
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that will get you mugged at my walmart....
PJ Diaz
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I got one last year and love it. I want to get another electric car to replace my other gas vehicle.I understand that "Electric cars" are one of the most searched things on the internet during the lockdown....
doublejj
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tangerinegreen555
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Wonder why those Swedish scientists are signing petitions against the gov't's current approach over there?
More deaths than their Scandavian neighbors and scientists say watch out in a couple or 3 weeks.
I'll be keeping an eye on that one.
Edit: seriously, this will be a good experiment.
Well maybe not so good for some Swedes who get sick. But you'll see how this outlier approach pans out with clarity in a month.
I predict they spike up over the next month.
More deaths than their Scandavian neighbors and scientists say watch out in a couple or 3 weeks.
I'll be keeping an eye on that one.
Edit: seriously, this will be a good experiment.
Well maybe not so good for some Swedes who get sick. But you'll see how this outlier approach pans out with clarity in a month.
I predict they spike up over the next month.
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Fogdog
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thanks for the explanation.
Budley Doright
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I farted yesterday and you could smell it 27’ away
tangerinegreen555
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Sounds about right. I think everything would have to go perfect at 27' though. They could try to infect some lab animal at 27' and miss 999 times out of 1000. Not that I'm willing to risk it.
Ideally, just stay away from people for a while.
zeddd
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My concern is really the fact that micro droplets containing the virus can spread further if there is air movement. People who live in very close proximity would be at a higher risk than is currently accepted.
rkymtnman
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even like older apartment bldgs that have central heat/AC system, it could blow into everybody's apartment before long.
rkymtnman
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a swedish friend of mine was over here in the US from late Feb to mid March and when he got home he didn't have to do anything. luckily all 4 that were in his group didn't get it here. they might get it back at home though.
Kassiopeija
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so there is this in vivo study in humans from 2008, in which also another similar successful study is mentioned. All this to confirm we have a vaccine against both MERS and SARS1 which was proven to be not lethal on humans. So that we in times of crisis, have at least a counter-agent. But since the threat was already eradicated, no need to go further and waste money for the development of a product that will not sell at all. But 4 years time - although without pressure.
A SARS DNA vaccine induces neutralizing antibody and cellular immune responses in healthy adults in a Phase I clinical trial
Rob Roy
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abandonconflict
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This doesn't even make sense. There's ample evidence it doesn't flatten the curve simply based on the 3 cases I keep citing. Especially in NYC and Rome. Lockdown implemented, cases skyrocketed and average incubation is 8 days. It is sill hard to argue that Italy's curve has flattened and it's been well over a month since they implemented strict lockdowns.And there is no proof it doesn’t .....Have another look at Sweden as of today. Their curve should be flat according to this thread. The quick response to lockdown travel was IMO the key. Keeping numbers low enough to track and isolate seems to be the one main factor ...... it’s still pretty early to prove what was/is successful. Seems your offering a good “hypothesis” though.
Exactly my point. You go to the one store that is allowed to operate within walking distance and you're almost certainly exposed to fomites there. You could almost argue the lockdowns make it worse.
abandonconflict
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But I'm not. It's been over a month in NYC and in Rome that strict lockdowns have been in place. The incubation period is 8 days on average. We're killing the economy and it's compounding the problem, not flattening the curve.What I say: Anyone who tries to identify a "flattening curve" from day-to-day observations ...
does not understand how to analyze curves!
abandonconflict
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All of those could as easily be explained by two other factors. Travel restrictions and the fact that all of those most susceptible having been infected. China's just lying.
The most successful cases, South Korea, Hong Kong and Taiwan implemented no such lockdowns. A higher percentage of South Korea has been infected than that of the US. No lockdowns, businesses open, schools open.
Strict lockdowns in Rome, NYC, cases continued skyrocketting for well over a month.