Lockdowns don't work.

abandonconflict

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in my state... The lockdown is working OK
No it isn't. Several nursing homes have outbreaks. Cases are growing and the most vulnerable are exposed.

Oregon data are full of inconsistencies so you really have no fucking clue what is going on:

Oregon has a way higher death rate than South Dakota despite a very similar number of cases and less testing. Oregon is doing very poorly.
 

Fogdog

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No it isn't. Several nursing homes have outbreaks. Cases are growing and the most vulnerable are exposed.

Oregon data are full of inconsistencies so you really have no fucking clue what is going on:

Oregon has a way higher death rate than South Dakota despite a very similar number of cases and less testing. Oregon is doing very poorly.
Lockdowns are working just fine. Do I have to post that graph again that proves it, as evidence, @abandonepidemiology?

Too funny that you cite Oregons garbled test data as being fucked up (which it is and is just about everywhere), then cite Oregon's death rate, which is not all that high compared to a neighbor state (ID) that is not observing lockdown guidelines.

So, what's going on in the Phillippines? They have a very low rate of deaths due to coronavirus. I think that is remarkable. I hope it's true too.
 

Fogdog

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Continuing to declare the veracity of the conclusion that you have failed to support is indeed a fallacy.
I completely admit that I'm following guidance from epidemiology professionals and that I'm using information about the efficacy of lockdowns from tusted sources.

At times like this, we should look to guidance from people with knowlege and experience, rather than novices or politicians.
 

abandonconflict

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fuck grandma
I completely admit that I'm following guidance from epidemiology professionals and that I'm using information about the efficacy of lockdowns from tusted sources.

At times like this, we should look to guidance from people with knowlege and experience, rather than novices or politicians.
Epidemiology professionals are finding ways to open the economy and conducting antibody tests to track the spread of the virus. You haven't cited any studies. You've simply linked the wrong curve.
 

Fogdog

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Epidemiology professionals are finding ways to open the economy and conducting antibody tests to track the spread of the virus. You haven't cited any studies. You've simply linked the wrong curve.
I cited a relevant curve containing the best data available at this time. I don't know about the other part of your statement. It's not what epidemiologists are saying here. Maybe in the Phillippines, they say that. But then again, they have a very low rate of deaths, so perhaps it's not the same level of concern there as it is here.
 

abandonconflict

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best data available at this time.
No. There is in fact no dearth of info regarding cases per day. That is, in fact, the first stat you see, graphed logarithmically, on a site you have linked several times.

 

Fogdog

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No. There is in fact no dearth of info regarding cases per day. That is, in fact, the first stat you see, graphed logarithmically, on a site you have linked several times.

Again using instantaneous data to claim a dynamic process is failing. I don't think you even understand why what you just did is false.

You aren't good at this.
 

Fogdog

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Samples taken last week.

75% left to go. It's a good thing that lockdowns work because NY's health industry was collapsing under the crush of just 25% getting exposed.

You aren't good at this.
 

UncleBuck

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But you have no idea when you got infected, never tested negative, and have in all probability infected your other grandmother. You're a super-spreader.

You're a typical example of why lockdowns don't work. You've infected your family.
I’m sorry you’re too retarded to understand possible incubation periods.

my family is fine

continue your meltdown now
 

abandonconflict

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I’m sorry you’re too retarded to understand possible incubation periods.

my family is fine

continue your meltdown now
Your family is infected, because of you. You have revealed enough to assume this. Yet, as you say, you've been continuing employment and visiting elderly relatives.

You're a super-spreader and a typical reason why lockdowns don't work. Luckily, your family has had mild cases, no thanks to your super-spreading ways.
 

UncleBuck

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Your family is infected, because of you. You have revealed enough to assume this. Yet, as you say, you've been continuing employment and visiting elderly relatives.

You're a super-spreader and a typical reason why lockdowns don't work. Luckily, your family has had mild cases, no thanks to your super-spreading ways.
My family and I have been in contact for 10+ days. No one is infected because we’ve both locked down and lockdowns work
You may continue your meltdown
 
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