number of able-bodied adults on food stamps doubled after Obama suspended work requir

abandonconflict said:
what gives you the idea I want that?

Do you day dream about that sort of thing? Just because money is all you care about doesn't mean my life's direction is money. 1/8 of the money is held by 400 people, that is like 1/8 of your blood pooling in your eyeballs while the rest of your organs atrophy.
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Lolz....you may as well have been talking to another person on another planet regarding another subject with that answer. Getting baked in the morning does not become you. You said if I had that sort of money I would give it away, I said you are naive because if you had that sort of money it would have taken a lifetime to earn it meaning your feelings on it would be very different to what you think now being an average Joe on a weed growing forum. Get it?
 
abandonconflict said:
if I had all that money I would give it to people who need it. Your talk of envy belies your way of thinking, selfishness.
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This post shows why you're a lefty, it's cos you HAVNT got money.

Bull-fucking-shit, do you give you weed to "patients" who need it for free?
 
They should have drug testing for that and welfare... I have to get drug tested to make the money for the system they should have to also to get MY money
 
[h=1]46.5 Million Americans, Record 22.3 Million US Households, On Foodstamps; 8,753,935 On Disability[/h]
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/27/2012 11:26 -0400




America's transition into a welfare state continues, as May saw a new all time high number of American households, 22.3 million to be exact, enter technical poverty and collect foodstamps. At the individual level, 46.5 million Americans lived off foodstamps, a 222,157 increase in the month, or nearly three times the number of people who found jobs in June according to the BLS. Next month this too will be a record, as it is currently just 17,367 before the previous all time high set in December of 2011. The good news, and we use the term loosely, is that the average benefit per household rose from all time lows of $275.82 to $276.76. Surely, the bottom is in and just like housing, there is on blue skies ahead.


And before we go, here is the total number of Americans on disbility: 8,753,935.

Combined foodstamp and disability recipients: 55,250,723
 
newworldicon said:
Lolz....you may as well have been talking to another person on another planet regarding another subject with that answer. Getting baked in the morning does not become you. You said if I had that sort of money I would give it away, I said you are naive because if you had that sort of money it would have taken a lifetime to earn it meaning your feelings on it would be very different to what you think now being an average Joe on a weed growing forum. Get it?
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I wouldn't ever have that much, I would be giving too much away.
 
I suppose soup lines are republican ideas of progress. I think it's funny that the poor are blamed for using the social net by conservatives, when it wasn't them that caused the economic downturn.
 
NoDrama said:
  • An increase of 18 million people, to 46 million Americans now receiving food stamps;
  • A 122% increase in food stamp spending to an estimated $89 billion this year from $40 billion in 2008;
  • An increase of 3.6 million people receiving Social Security disability payments;
  • A 10 million person increase in the number of individuals receiving welfare, to 107 million, or more than one-third of the U.S. population;

I Blame George Washington for these bad times, if he had just let the British alone we could all be eatin fish and chips right now.



http://www.forbes.com/sites/charles...y-greatly-increasing-the-power-of-government/
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Might this have something to do with an unemployment rate that has remained over 8 percent for 4 years?
 
canndo said:
Might this have something to do with an unemployment rate that has remained over 8 percent for 4 years?
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its not 8%, you know lets go back to when Reagan was first President. Unemployment was at 10% then, but you know what measure they used back then to calculate unemployment? Any idea at all? They used the U6 measure, but Clinton changed that to using the U3 measure. Know what the unemployment is in the U6 measure? 15%

Thats right, unemployment is at 15%

15%

15%

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
 
canndo said:
Might this have something to do with an unemployment rate that has remained over 8 percent for 4 years?
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I don't think you can really Blame George, it was a long time ago, easier to blame Bush. Not that it would be correct, but it is easier to deflect all blame and redirect to the last dumbass we let be our incompetent leader.
 
NoDrama said:
its not 8%, you know lets go back to when Reagan was first President. Unemployment was at 10% then, but you know what measure they used back then to calculate unemployment? Any idea at all? They used the U6 measure, but Clinton changed that to using the U3 measure. Know what the unemployment is in the U6 measure? 15%

Thats right, unemployment is at 15%

15%

15%

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t15.htm
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I used the figure most often quoted. I have no idea how it is arrived at either now or then. The point is apart from that altogether NoDrama, the point is that ongoing high unemployment will lead to those who are unemployed and have depleated their savings and financial resources have nowhere to turn but to the government, in order for them to eat. This has nothing to do with Obama intending to increase the welfare rolls for some communisticly nefarious purpose.
 
NoDrama said:
I don't think you can really Blame George, it was a long time ago, easier to blame Bush. Not that it would be correct, but it is easier to deflect all blame and redirect to the last dumbass we let be our incompetent leader.
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History needs to be viewed in arcs and panoramas and not in convenient snapshots but that, when it suits them, is how Republicans insist on viewing the world and this country. I seem to recall that Reagan is still lauded for the changes he made to our country even though his is not only long away from the presidency, but he is long away from awareness or even life. What presidents do affects the country long after they step down from their posts. I am sure you will agree with that.
 
canndo said:
History needs to be viewed in arcs and panoramas and not in convenient snapshots but that, when it suits them, is how Republicans insist on viewing the world and this country. I seem to recall that Reagan is still lauded for the changes he made to our country even though his is not only long away from the presidency, but he is long away from awareness or even life. What presidents do affects the country long after they step down from their posts. I am sure you will agree with that.
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I agree, but it really is getting to be a blame game when you try to blame all the problems on someone who has been dead for 200 Years. Thats just wrong. Good leaders take the blame even if it wasn't their fault. People that just play the blame game don't have any integrity or real leadership skills. Presidents now a days are elected on their looks and speech giving ability, not many people care to look for a history of leadership and management. Good leaders don't always make the right decisions either, but at least they make them. Obama sometimes seems to be content with letting Fate run the country when he won't plan a budget.
 
NoDrama said:
I agree, but it really is getting to be a blame game when you try to blame all the problems on someone who has been dead for 200 Years. Thats just wrong. Good leaders take the blame even if it wasn't their fault. People that just play the blame game don't have any integrity or real leadership skills. Presidents now a days are elected on their looks and speech giving ability, not many people care to look for a history of leadership and management. Good leaders don't always make the right decisions either, but at least they make them. Obama sometimes seems to be content with letting Fate run the country when he won't plan a budget.
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The concept of the buck stopping at the top is not a silly one. Good leaders need to balance that concept with properly assessing the situation and frankly, laying blame where it belongs. I am a board member in my home owners association. I got on the board after we discovered that the association's reserves were perilously low as a result of the fools who ran the place before we came on.

When we are asked by home owners why we have raised the dues and why the reserve is so low we are forced to tell them the truth, that the administration previous to ours was careless and that we will need to spend the next 5 or 6 years getting back on track.

Or we could remain silent about the shortfall and be most likely voted out of office by people who never knew the truth about the association's financial past. We in fact are not the cause of the trouble but we are taking resonsibility for it but doing the hard things - like cutting back on our spending and raising the rates.
 
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