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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Imagine when the Ukrainians start capturing generals and shipping them to The Hague (America is documenting everything for the Ukrainians) for public crimes against humanity and war crimes trials. Vlad's lawyers and diplomats will be exactly like Trump's lawyers! They won't have a legal leg to stand on and will be pounding the table and screaming stupidity, while the press ridicule them and the public protests and brays for blood. Not even Vlad's counter disinformation and propaganda will work, he lost all of his conduits to the west, the internet, most, but not all of his useful idiots like Trump and on top of that all the hackers in the country will be pissed at him to no fucking end (they will know the truth too)! Even the GRU and FSB hackers will be living like shit on their government salaries and will know the real reasons why. He won't even be able to get anybody to troll for him, except useful idiots and Nazis in the west who see the sun setting. It will be like the great depression in about a month in Russia, no matter what happens with the war.
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you never seem to take into account that putin is not thinking clearly...that if you push him past a certain point, he WILL go to the nukes. he's old, he has a dream, he has absolutely nothing to lose...he either goes out as a hero to russia, or he takes as many people with him as he can when he goes.
the best case i see happening is that he retains crimea and donetsk , and probably the land in between, and will still start immediate shit if what remains of Ukrain applies for NATO membership.
there are only two options, negotiate, or obliterate....i personally vote to obliterate russia, destroy their war making capabilities, and while we're at it, take out Lukashenko, so he doesn't try to step into the void. of course, that also runs the risk of global nuclear war. i realize i only speak for myself, but i'd rather take the chance at war...if you leave russia unmuzzled, they'll be back at the world's throat as soon as they build up enough equipment and man power to do it again.
a concerted attack from NATO and NATO members navies would be required. we would have to take out ALL his nuclear attack subs, and as soon as that was started, coordinated attacks on as many of his icbm sites as possible. once you pull those teeth, putin will be powerless. NATO's ground forces could crush the russian army like ants...the nukes are ALL he has, and i think he WILL try to use them if things go against him...
remove the threat now, or we live with it forever, and our children, and grand children, will all live with the same threat
 
Mr_X

Mr_X

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This war reminds me of the war in iraq and everyone's opinion on oil and the economy and sending troops to the middle east to help the civilians and kill terrorists. russia is the new iraq.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
you never seem to take into account that putin is not thinking clearly...that if you push him past a certain point, he WILL go to the nukes. he's old, he has a dream, he has absolutely nothing to lose...he either goes out as a hero to russia, or he takes as many people with him as he can when he goes.
the best case i see happening is that he retains crimea and donetsk , and probably the land in between, and will still start immediate shit if what remains of Ukrain applies for NATO membership.
there are only two options, negotiate, or obliterate....i personally vote to obliterate russia, destroy their war making capabilities, and while we're at it, take out Lukashenko, so he doesn't try to step into the void. of course, that also runs the risk of global nuclear war. i realize i only speak for myself, but i'd rather take the chance at war...if you leave russia unmuzzled, they'll be back at the world's throat as soon as they build up enough equipment and man power to do it again.
a concerted attack from NATO and NATO members navies would be required. we would have to take out ALL his nuclear attack subs, and as soon as that was started, coordinated attacks on as many of his icbm sites as possible. once you pull those teeth, putin will be powerless. NATO's ground forces could crush the russian army like ants...the nukes are ALL he has, and i think he WILL try to use them if things go against him...
remove the threat now, or we live with it forever, and our children, and grand children, will all live with the same threat
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If Putin commits his army to Ukraine the Ukrainians using NATO arms and supplies will bleed it white and destroy as much of it's equipment as possible . The more troops he pours in, the more who will know the truth, because Ukraine with NATO help will make sure that they do. They are very vulnerable to psychological warfare and we ain't seen nothing yet! Everyday that passes the Ukrainians grow stronger and the Russians grow weaker as the arms flow in and the training and organization happen in the west.

Ukraine is a country of 45 million that in a month will be the equivalent of a country of hundreds of millions militarily with outside support. They can easily have a high quality million man regular army and at least 5 million heavily armed partisans and irregulars armed with soviet era weapons, mainly behind their future lines. Villages and small towns on their advance are being armed with arms packages for a few thousand men and military advisors, so far most have been unarmed. Truck convoys are amazingly still going deep into Ukraine, even to the east and to the south of Kyiv. I would imagine a lot of the tractor trailers in the EU are on the roads of Ukraine with volunteer drivers.

Almost all the Ukrainian forces will be combat forces, supported logistically by young women and old men, as the women children and elderly are removed to the west for safety and the battle field cleared. NATO and other countries are supplying every thing from beans to bullets, not just to the massive army, but to the population too. They don't need to make a thing, everything will be supplied for free, especially the old soviet weapons and there are literally millions of those close by to give to Ukrainians. It will take Vlad awhile to assemble his mighty army. He has 100% of committed forces there now and it looks like some of them at least could be cut off and captured, including generals. The forces in the country are getting their logistics destroyed, have not been relieved after 2 weeks of combat and there are probably no replacements for the killed and wounded, except for conscripts taken from the rear.

It's gonna be a Helluva show Roger and a tragedy, if it goes on, there will be a titanic struggle in Ukraine that will not end well for Vlad, he needs a way out. He was trying to get Belarus to join the war the other day, this could mean his supply columns from there headed to Kyiv are being destroyed by partisans at an increasing rate as they are armed by the government. They have no combat screen and there is no easy way to get to them and they are stretched out on the road and stopped, they are very hard to defend. I'm certain the Ukrainians are focused on this, it is way easier than dealing with combat units at the tip of their spear and irregular locals can do it when supplied with arms.
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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DIY-HP-LED said:
If Putin commits his army to Ukraine the Ukrainians using NATO arms and supplies will bleed it white and destroy as much of it's equipment as possible . The more troops he pours in, the more who will know the truth, because Ukraine with NATO help will make sure that they do. They are very vulnerable to psychological warfare and we ain't seen nothing yet! Everyday that passes the Ukrainians grow stronger and the Russians grow weaker as the arms flow in and the training and organization happen in the west.

Ukraine is a country of 45 million that in a month will be the equivalent of a country of hundreds of millions militarily with outside support. They can easily have a high quality million man regular army and at least 5 million heavily armed partisans and irregulars armed with soviet era weapons, mainly behind their future lines. Villages and small towns on their advance are being armed with arms packages for a few thousand men and military advisors, so far most have been unarmed. Truck convoys are amazingly still going deep into Ukraine, even to the east and to the south of Kyiv. I would imagine a lot of the tractor trailers in the EU are on the roads of Ukraine with volunteer drivers.

Almost all the Ukrainian forces will be combat forces, supported logistically by young women and old men, as the women children and elderly are removed to the west for safety and the battle field cleared. NATO and other countries are supplying every thing from beans to bullets, not just to the massive army, but to the population too. They don't need to make a thing, everything will be supplied for free, especially the old soviet weapons and there are literally millions of those close by to give to Ukrainians. It will take Vlad awhile to assemble his mighty army. He has 100% of committed forces there now and it looks like some of them at least could be cut off and captured, including generals. The forces in the country are getting their logistics destroyed, have not been relieved after 2 weeks of combat and there are probably no replacements for the killed and wounded, except for conscripts taken from the rear.

It's gonna be a Helluva show Roger and a tragedy, if it goes on, there will be a titanic struggle in Ukraine that will not end well for Vlad, he needs a way out. He was trying to get Belarus to join the war the other day, this could mean his supply columns from there headed to Kyiv are being destroyed by partisans at an increasing rate as they are armed by the government. They have no combat screen and there is no easy way to get to them and they are stretched out on the road and stopped, they are very hard to defend. I'm certain the Ukrainians are focused on this, it is way easier than dealing with combat units at the tip of their spear and irregular locals can do it when supplied with arms.
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again...not one word about the largest nuclear arsenal in the WORLD...with a fucking insane person at the trigger...you think he's going to let Ukrain survive without getting what he wants? it doesn't matter if the Ukrains have 10 million volunteer fighters, they can all be turned into constituent atoms at the push of a button. you HAVE to pull those teeth, or the rabid russian dog will keep biting
 
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UK Will Back Poland if it Sends Jets to Ukraine
British defense minister Ben Wallace said on Tuesday Britain would support Poland if it decided to provide Ukraine with fighter jets, but warned that doing so might have direct consequences for Poland.
"I would support the Poles and whatever choice they make," Wallace told Sky News, adding that the United Kingdom could not offer aircraft that the Ukrainians would be able to use.

"We would protect Poland, we'll help them with anything that they need," he said. "Poland will understand that the choices they make will not only directly help Ukraine, which is a good thing, but also may bring them into direct line of fire from countries such as Russia or Belarus."

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UK Will Back Poland if it Sends Jets to Ukraine

British defense minister Ben Wallace said on Tuesday Britain would support Poland if it decided to provide Ukraine with fighter jets, but warned that doing so might have direct consequences for Poland.
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schuylaar

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Are their diplomats still in DC? Somebody drove a truck into Irish compound fence.

Irish man drives truck into Russian embassy gates, arrested



Irish priest throws paint at Russian Embassy during live radio interview
Fr. Fergal MacDonagh, from the Dolphin's Barn parish in Dublin, threw the paint during a live interview with Irish radio show Liveline on Friday, stating that he was responding to news that Russia had bombed a maternity hospital in Ukraine.


www.irishcentral.com

Irish priest throws paint at Russian Embassy during live radio interview

A Catholic priest has thrown red paint at the gates of the Russian Embassy in Dublin, stating that he ensured the paint had an oil base so that would be difficult to remove.
www.irishcentral.com www.irishcentral.com
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
again...not one word about the largest nuclear arsenal in the WORLD...with a fucking insane person at the trigger...you think he's going to let Ukrain survive without getting what he wants? it doesn't matter if the Ukrains have 10 million volunteer fighters, they can all be turned into constituent atoms at the push of a button. you HAVE to pull those teeth, or the rabid russian dog will keep biting
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I hope nukes are off the table cause it will be game over for everybody and especially for Russia, they would glow in the dark for a century and know it. As Vlad gets more desperate and weaker, the same concerns Americans had with Trump's itchy finger will arise in Russia. Other than cities in Ukraine, he has no real military targets for tactical nukes, the troops won't be concentrated. That's not to say there won't be an accident or an idiot.

As Vlad grows weaker at home that will be hard to do, there will be no sudden moves, just slow strangulation.
 
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