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BudmanTX said:

Zelensky to Biden: we like too lease 1K of HIMARS and 2K of the MLRS.....that would put Moscow in range and Crimea in range....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1529939191378984988

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Unlike the Russian MLRS these are not really area weapons, each rocket is precision guided! They can fire several smaller rockets at shorter ranges, or one big one that can go 500km. There are several missile sizes for this system and the Ukrainians are experts at what they need, even the Pentagon respects experience.

I figure with Vlad they are boiling the frog slow, if they tried to put him in boiling water he would jump out of the pot too quick! The water is warming up slowly, but will soon rapidly boil and the world food crises gives the perfect conditions for it too and tens of millions starving the justification. Getting on the wrong side of the global food crises and starving the third world to death is very bad PR for Vlad. Millions of lives on the line can justify a lot of action including sinking the entire Russian Black sea fleet unless they stay on their side of a line that will be drawn.

They have been studying the situation closely in the pentagon and many of the weapons systems they are getting were designed in the 70's and 80's to defeat the Russian system of arms. Until now, with the exception of anti tank and AA shoulder launched weapons, they were fighting on equal terms with old soviet weapons. The long reach of the M777 is but one example of a system designed and upgraded to defeat the Russian 152mm artillery by out ranging it with greater precision, mobility and faster response time.

oh Mr Pooty has his own problems at home......looks desention in the ranks


meanwhile.....they're people flat out not wanting to go at all

Russian army being ‘mowed down’ by Ukrainians | Samantha de Bendern
62,004 views May 27, 2022 “The Russians have been slowed down by the many failed attempts to cross a river in the area called the Severodonetsk River. They are being mowed down by the Ukrainians.” What is happening to Russia’s strategy? Calum Macdonald and Chloe Tilley discuss with Samantha de Bendern, associate fellow of the Russia and Eurasia programme at Chatham House, on Times Radio.

BudmanTX said:

oh Mr Pooty has his own problems at home......looks desention in the ranks

In Rare Display Of Dissent, Lawmakers In Russia's Far East Urge Putin To Stop Ukraine War

In a rare display of political protest in Russia, a group of lawmakers representing the Communist Party in the Far Eastern region of Primorye have called on President Vladimir Putin to stop military operations in Ukraine and withdraw all troops from the country.

www.rferl.org

meanwhile.....they're people flat out not wanting to go at all

115 Russian national guard soldiers sacked for refusing to fight in Ukraine

Cases involving Rosgvardia, known as Vladimir Putin’s private army, are clearest sign yet of dissent in Russian ranks

www.theguardian.com

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The Ukrainian army has a waiting list of volunteers and men were trying to pay bribes to get into the territorials after the war started. Over the past 7 years they cycled almost a half million people through NATO training and were at low level war in the Donbass and it experience that which made them strong and enabled them to rapidly expand their fighting forces. There are enough AKs and other old leftover soviet shit in Europe and Ukraine to arm a million men or more, the eastern block depended on mass conscript armies so that means lot's of guns and other shit were laying around.

So America is switching to a new weapon and standard military round, think many AR15s will end up in Ukraine some day, along with millions of rounds of .227 ammo?

Hey Uncle Sam, this is why we need MLRS, so send some... It's better they are using this shit on open ground where it's effects are minimal, than in cities. Still if it was accurate enough and the positions were manned, they were screwed.

A single American MLRS rocket could take out the launcher with a precision strike guided by drones or counter battery radars. They need a longer reach than artillery to do this in many cases.


“Most Horrific War Of 21st Century” Putin’s TOS-1A Thermobaric Strike In Donbas Sends Shockwaves
44,097 views May 27, 2022 Ukraine’s Armed Forces have released chilling footage showing the devastating impact of Russia’s TOS-1A artillery strikes hitting their positions. As per reports, the Russian thermobaric bomb strikes took place near Novomykhailivka and Lyman in the Donetsk region in Donbas. The 30-barrel or 24-barrel multiple rocket launcher, mounted on a T-72 tank chassis, is capable of firing thermobaric warheads, a type of explosive that uses oxygen in the surrounding area to generate a high-temperature blast. The video was posted from a Ukraine govt account with a message that read "this is what the largest and most horrific war of the 21st century looks like."

DIY-HP-LED said:

Hey Uncle Sam, this is why we need MLRS, so send some... It's better they are using this shit on open ground where it's effects are minimal, than in cities. Still if it was accurate enough and the positions were manned, they were screwed.

A single American MLRS rocket could take out the launcher with a precision strike guided by drones or counter battery radars. They need a longer reach than artillery to do this in many cases.

“Most Horrific War Of 21st Century” Putin’s TOS-1A Thermobaric Strike In Donbas Sends Shockwaves
44,097 views May 27, 2022 Ukraine’s Armed Forces have released chilling footage showing the devastating impact of Russia’s TOS-1A artillery strikes hitting their positions. As per reports, the Russian thermobaric bomb strikes took place near Novomykhailivka and Lyman in the Donetsk region in Donbas. The 30-barrel or 24-barrel multiple rocket launcher, mounted on a T-72 tank chassis, is capable of firing thermobaric warheads, a type of explosive that uses oxygen in the surrounding area to generate a high-temperature blast. The video was posted from a Ukraine govt account with a message that read "this is what the largest and most horrific war of the 21st century looks like."

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think UA as a few of those thanks to the Farmer Brigades finding them and towing them back

Yeah there are those concerns, however, how much is deception for the benefit of the Russians? Does Uncle Sam expect the Ukrainians to destroy the Russian army for them on a fucking shoestring? The stated purpose is to destroy the Russian army after all, it's just a question of how much Ukrainian blood they are willing to spend to do it, while walking the nuclear tight rope and trying to get Vlad to commit as much into Ukraine as he's got. The world food crises is also looming and others might act against Russia over it, while Uncle Sam stays clear of the black sea, except for air support and heat on Turkey.
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US considering sending Ukraine this advanced weapons system
33,927 views May 27, 2022 The Biden administration is preparing to step up the kind of weaponry it is offering Ukraine by sending advanced, long-range rocket systems that are now the top request from Ukrainian officials, multiple officials say.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Poland would be fucking delighted and have the fucker's head on a stake in a week. Maybe the poles are doing some clandestine work in his backyard or arming Chechen fighters in Ukraine who are his enemies. Poland is probably keen for regime change in Belarus and Ukraine should be too.
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Putin Ally Chechen Leader Kadyrov Wants To Invade Poland! Russia is Delusional! RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR
14,611 views May 26, 2022 Putin Ally Chechen Leader Kadyrov Wants To Invade Poland! Russia is Delusional! RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR

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holy fucking shit, DO IT! attack a NATO member country...give the rest of the world the excuse it needs to not only wipe out any ability russia has to ever wage war again, and to get rid of that fucking kadyrov dumbfuck while we're at it...
i motherfucking triple dog shit dare you, you cowardly fucking idiots...

DIY-HP-LED said:

Russia-Ukraine War l Why Kyiv Has Managed To Decimate Putin’s Famed Orlan-10 Drones Amid War. . . . . .

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So they are bringing down every tenth drone?

injinji said:

So they are bringing down every tenth drone?

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Dunno, but apparently they are using cheap Chinese RC plane parts like flight control computers, they were suppose to be hardened electronics, but someone stole the budget and cheap shit was substituted and no EM protection worth a fuck. So you could probably aim the assembled junk from a microwave oven and satellite dish at one and fry it! Uncle Sam has been giving anti drone equipment and this is the result, they show some possible systems from promo videos. The Ukrainians aren't saying or showing anything classified info. If they can drone blind the Russians it gives them a big advantage and can save many lives from artillery fire. It can also give the Ukrainians the advantage of surprise and removes it from the Russians. That's aside from their use as weapons.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Dunno, but apparently they are using cheap Chinese RC plane parts like flight control computers, they were suppose to be hardened electronics, but someone stole the budget and cheap shit was substituted and no EM protection worth a fuck. So you could probably aim the assembled junk from a microwave oven and satellite dish at one and fry it! Uncle Sam has been giving anti drone equipment and this is the result, they show some possible systems from promo videos. The Ukrainians aren't saying or showing anything classified info. If they can drone blind the Russians it gives them a big advantage and can save many lives from artillery fire. It can also give the Ukrainians the advantage of surprise and removes it from the Russians. That's aside from their use as weapons.

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Don't mind me. I did watch the video, and it looks like poot-poot's crew is in deep doodoo where their drones are concerned. I just can't stand to see verbiage abuse.

injinji said:

Don't mind me. I did watch the video, and it looks like poot-poot's crew is in deep doodoo where their drones are concerned. I just can't stand to see verbiage abuse.

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Unfortunately “decimate” now means two distinct things. You used the old Roman meaning. More fun with the word:

cannabineer said:

Unfortunately “decimate” now means two distinct things. You used the old Roman meaning. More fun with the word:

Regarding the Incorrect Use of 'Decimate'

It's totally fine to use 'decimate' as a synonym for 'devastate'. This is why.

www.merriam-webster.com

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Thanks!

BudmanTX said:

think UA as a few of those thanks to the Farmer Brigades finding them and towing them back

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If they get 1000 MLRS and others from Uncle Sam, they will hit the Russians like a fucking freight train, game over. Panic in the rear where logistics, command and control, fuel and rocket launchers are located. After they are worn down and enough of their officers killed, this could be the thing that triggers the panic among the Russians and causes a front to collapse. If it were introduced too early the Ukrainians would be compelled to use it. However they are air transportable, some are already in Europe as part of NATO and allies have them too. So, if they suddenly show up in hundreds while the Russians are in a pitched battle and mostly drone blind...

Dunno if there is a master plan, but I'd be working from one, and perhaps the clever bastards are, and this is part of it. If the Sec of Defense said he wanted to destroy the Russian army, he already had a plan to do it and if you think deception is not part of it, you are mistaken. Suck him in, build up slow, make him think he can win, if he tries hard enough, when he's all in, hammer him and spring the trap at Kerch. In the east destroy his fuel supply so that his equipment is immobilized and when they run, they have to leave it or destroy it for you. Cut the rail bridges inside Russia hampering their retreat in the east and hammer them with artillery inside Russia as they run.

DIY-HP-LED said:

If they get 1000 MLRS and others from Uncle Sam, they will hit the Russians like a fucking freight train, game over. Panic in the rear where logistics, command and control, fuel and rocket launchers are located. After they are worn down and enough of their officers killed, this could be the thing that triggers the panic among the Russians and causes a front to collapse. If it were introduced too early the Ukrainians would be compelled to use it. However they are air transportable, some are already in Europe as part of NATO and allies have them too. So, if they suddenly show up in hundreds while the Russians are in a pitched battle and mostly drone blind...

Dunno if there is a master plan, but I'd be working from one, and perhaps the clever bastards are, and this is part of it. If the Sec of Defense said he wanted to destroy the Russian army, he already had a plan to do it and if you think deception is not part of it, you are mistaken. Suck him in, build up slow, make him think he can win, if he tries hard enough, when he's all in, hammer him and spring the trap at Kerch. In the east destroy his fuel supply so that his equipment is immobilized and when they run, they have to leave it or destroy it for you. Cut the rail bridges inside Russia hampering their retreat in the east and hammer them with artillery inside Russia as they run.

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Bringum......as many as they can get......and i do hope they get HIMAR's too with the long range missles added to them.

these especially

310 miles (500km) for Precision Strike Missile

that puts Moscow in the cross hairs, Crimea in the cross hairs, Maripol in the cross hairs, and that Kerch Bridge

The Ukrainians are not out manned, quite the opposite, they are out matched in heavy equipment and arms and Vlad is still pouring that shit and logistics for it, in from Russia. He might not be able to get it back out though.
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Inside Ukraine As Forces Push Back Against Russian Troops
7,008 views May 27, 2022 Ukrainian troops remain outnumbered and outgunned. But U.S. officials say Russian troops are taking heavy losses due to Ukrainian forces destroying at least 1,000 Russian tanks in the last three months. NBC’s Richard Engel reports for TODAY.

BudmanTX said:

Bringum......as many as they can get......and i do hope they get HIMAR's too with the long range missles added to them.

these especially

310 miles (500km) for Precision Strike Missile

that puts Moscow in the cross hairs, Crimea in the cross hairs, Maripol in the cross hairs, and that Kerch Bridge

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Imagine the position the Russians would be in if the Ukrainians suddenly introduced lots of MLRSs with a plan to use them in the east and the Russian army collapsed. Then they turned on Mariupol cutting the Russians in half, then suddenly the bridge at Kerch is cut! Their entire southern front and Crimea would be cut off from fuel and resupply except by air as the full force of the Ukrainian army is about to be unleashed on it with reservists mopping up and securing the east. However before that happens their Black sea fleet will have to deal with the world food crises and navies eager to reduce their numbers further while escorting grain ships. Attacking a grain ship won't be a popular move either and the allies are counting on it, it's another atrocity they can exploit and use against the Russians.

DIY-HP-LED said:

Imagine the position the Russians would be in if the Ukrainians suddenly introduced lots of MLRSs with a plan to use them in the east and the Russian army collapsed. Then they turned on Mariupol cutting the Russians in half, then suddenly the bridge at Kerch is cut! Their entire southern front and Crimea would be cut off from fuel and resupply except by air as the full force of the Ukrainian army is about to be unleashed on it with reservists mopping up and securing the east. However before that happens their Black sea fleet will have to deal with the world food crises and navies eager to reduce their numbers further while escorting grain ships. Attacking a grain ship won't be a popular move either and the allies are counting on it, it's another atrocity they can exploit and use against the Russians.

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that's pretty much how i'm see it......also station one of the HIMARS in the north....right near Charkariv (sp)......nice close shot on Moscow light them up like they tried to do to KIEV, start hitting those fuel station and oil stations with precision

BudmanTX said:

that's pretty much how i'm see it......also station one of the HIMARS in the north....right near Charkariv (sp)......nice close shot on Moscow light them up like they tried to do to KIEV, start hitting those fuel station and oil stations with precision

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Later after they win the battle and liberate their country, then a missile strike on Kyiv can be answered by one or several on vital rail bridges. It's better PR and will hurt them like Hell, Russia is heavily dependent on the rails and will be more so, when sanctions hit and spare parts for trucks dry up. If they keep up the shit and interfere with reconstruction, then unleash those friends you've been making in central Asia, the ones fighting in Ukraine, on those central Asian road and rail bridges with some cash, training and resources. Foment trouble inside and outside his empire. First keep him busy with whatever he has left trying to hold on to Belarus from revolution and coups. Once a friendly government is established the Ukrainians can help to be maintained while the west, in particular Poland recognizes it and pours in additional aid to the new government.

This is the future Vlad is looking at, being neighbors with a free and prosperous west that speaks Russian, or close to it. It makes an iron curtain impossible to maintain and the ideas will infect Russian culture while causing dissatisfaction with the government and old imperialist way of doing things. If you want to change the culture and politics of Russia, start with Ukraine and Belarus, they will do the rest. That is why Vlad is really fighting this war, he does not fear conquest by a military, he fears conquest by new ideas. Old Russia could not survive a liberal democratic Ukraine, Belarus would succumb first, and eventually Russia.

More guns and ammo from Canada, Zel has been calling Justin. Yer up Sam, with them MLRSs
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160,864 views May 27, 2022 The Canadian Royal Air Force (RCAF) prepared a shipment M777 howitzers for transport to Ukraine, the RCAF said. Video from the RCAF shows uniformed men with Canadian flag arm patches loading M777 howitzers and containers onto a CC-177 Globemaster (the Canadian designation for the Boeing C-17 Globemaster III) marked RCAF. The RCAF’s Facebook post identified them as a crew from the 429 Transport Squadron, based in Trenton, Ontario. The RCAF said on May 26 that its CC-177 transport crew from 429 Transport Squadron had so far moved more than 1.3 million pounds (roughly 590,000 kilograms) of cargo and aid from Canada to Europe, “including the delivery of M777 howitzers.” Canadian forces have also trained some Ukrainian troops to use the howitzers. Credit: Royal Canadian Air Force via Storyful